A place to discuss the shinest damn place in the 'Verse.
While this was the 11th, and final episode aired in the initial run of the show on Fox in 2002, it was intended to be the 1st and pilot episode. It introduces all of the core characters, and it does so quite well.
As we may have people who have never watched the series joining us, please keep conversations limited to this episode.
Oh I should watch this again, thank you!
So some thought about the Pilot:
I haven't watched it in about five years so I'm really happy to doing this again, especially with other fans so we can chatter about it.
Overall I'm really into doing a re-watch and I'm even looking forward to the Train Job next week
Tudyk also played a chicken once too
Found on the Moana wiki :
« Heihei is Alan Tudyk's fifth consecutive voice role in the Disney Animated Canon. »
« The villager that suggests eating Heihei is also voiced by Alan Tudyk. »
Ha ha, that is so wrong.
But still “The chicken lives!”
making River be completely naked in the box? I guess you could say she's being reborn but it seems a stretch and feels a bit over the top.
I agree about the rebirth stuff, pre-whedon issues, I also figured it may have been because of cryosleep etc etc clothes freezing to her skin. But now that we know what we know it does feel creepy.
On the fandom page the still for the episode is the overhead shot of River in the cryo chamber. I thought better to grab my own screen cap of the inevitable betrayal.
Thanks for the better screen grab. I don’t mind the TVDB one that Kodi uses for a thumbnail but it’s kind of boring.
And yeah Whedon’s creepiness is a bit more obvious in hindsight but honestly I didn’t see it coming either much like Neil Gaimans I was surprised to hear it but not completely shook.
goramit! i just finished watchin that ruttin show a day ago, do i gotta go fer a rewatch?
Sounds like it ain't no hardship on ya.
How rare is fresh fruit in the verse? I ask because Preacher was packing a veritable fortune in strawberries.
What else was he supposed to do at the abbey when he wasn't busy hunting rats? Especially since he never married.
I always thought that food on a whole is tight but yeah fresh fruit and veg were considered a luxury item.
Which is a bit strange for parts of the verse where folks could have gardens, now that I think about it. I get it in a cyberpunk mega-city or whatever where no one has ever seen a tree but you'd think in some of these places they could grow their own.
Yeah it doesn’t make a heap of sense. Unless you go with the theory that on the trip to the ‘verse system the original colonists ate a lot of vat grown mushroom and artificial foods. My head cannon is that fake strawberries are everywhere and real ones are a delicacy
It sure did seem to have been a while since Kaylee had had any fresh fruit.
Brother that's how I eat strawberries every time.
Were I unwed I would take her in a manly fashion.
Because she's pretty.
Because she's pretty.
A right long spell.
"How is business?" - "None of yours" Why does the dialogue work so well between the characters?
I love that this episode shows how much Mal actually cares for Inara, but he is too... proud? to admit he cares for a companion.
Yeah it is a great setup for the rest of the show and it really introduces the characters well. Still don't get why this was not aired first
That one line between Mal and badger? Oh man that kills me it's so good. Paraphrasing;
Mal: "Wheels always turning Badger."
Badger: "That only matters to the people on the rim."
Damn that's a dope ass parting exchange.
They managed to write so many quips in the show that portrays the characters well. The exchange between Mal and Jayne at the end as well.
"Why didn't you take the offer?"
"The moneg was not good enough."
"What will happen if it is someday?"
"We will see, this will be a very interesting day."
in like 4 lines you get to know their working relationship and also get a glimpse of how much Mal knows and deduces.
For anyone who doesn't speak Mandarin here is a site I used to use to figure out what the hell they were saying:
https://fireflychinese.kevinsullivansite.net/title/index.html
Thank you for sharing, that website’s very interesting!
I suspect it could also be useful to Mandarin speakers. I’m no expert — studied it for a year in high school — but from what I remember, I wouldn’t be surprised if, one time out of two, the line is mostly unintelligible to a native speaker.
Hey that's cool, I had always wondered!