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If they could read or do comparisonal analysis or could formulate higher-functional abstraction in their frontal lobes, this would really make them think.
Autism diagnosis rates. Quite a difference.
Remember Covid, don't report on things = they stop existing.
Assuming the data is true (doubt it because of fucking beef jerky man), it's not so much that autism is on the rise so much that autism rates are being diagnosed more and autism is less stigmatized than it was previously.
If I remember correctly, it fits the same overall curve of the number of reported left handed people over time after society stopped forcibly making people use their right hand. Shockingly, actually making an attempt at diagnosing people and tracking those diagnoses makes numbers go up.
The source is "I made it the fuck up!"
Also ignoring improvements in diagnostics.
I mean, it says the source right there, it's the CDC...
The organization run by a brain worm driving a human suit?
I don't understand why you or the person I'm replying to are for some reason seeming to dispute the higher rate of autism diagnosis? It's a fairly well-established fact, the point of contention is why the rate is higher.
Because that'snot what the graph claims, and it is definitely not what the graph implies.
The graph says that there has been a 400% increase in the prevalence of autism. That's not true, and is unsupported by the evidence. There has been a marked increase in the effective diagnosis and therapeutic interventions, but autism was largely undiagnosed and under-reported for almost all of human history. We're still improving and refining the diagnostic criteria, and any changes in the number of cases should not be suggested to support any causal relationship with anything.
The graph is a lie, intended to push a political narrative that undermines the credibility of actual science, all in a transparent effort to distract from powerful child rapists raping children.
The rate is higher because we can "catch" more cases with better diagnosis.
Imagine machine that is throwing 100 balls per second. Another machine that can catch 10 balls per second. You catch 10 balls.
Now newer machine can catch 20, and newer can catch 50.
Does that mean the number of thrown balls is higher? No. It just means we have machines better at caching them. The same goes for any illness, autism, schizophrenia, cancer, depression...
Some ilnesses we are better at curing, does that mean the the illness is getting weaker?
Number of unvaxxed kids also growing in the past 22 years. I think it proves that autism is caused by lack of vaccine.
I remember when my mum was filling out a form as part of the autism assessment, she was like "sounds a lot like my husband as well... And his dad"
I'm convinced my mom is on the spectrum and my grandparents
Cool but
Not autism rates, detection rates is what's up, more kids are growing up with adequate helps and therapies so they can grow to be functional adults.
It is the same story as gay infecting children's minds.
They are selling awareness as something to be afraid of. Which is yet another layer od evil.
Well the cure is clearly to stop testing.
Instances of autism have skyrocketed since the discovery of autism and effective testing for it.
Clearly these tests are causing the autism. It's a conspiracy by Big Autist to make the world a quieter and more curious place. The railway companies are in on it too.
In other news, visibility bias has been classified as communist propaganda. Anyone who says this isn't representative of an actual increase in the incidence rate is a communist and can safely be ignored.
That line of best fit doesn't even match the data. How can it start above the data and then finish above the data but still be line of best fit. Not that that's the only problem with this graph of course.
Sorry, it's actually a "best fits our narrative" line. I can see how you might have been confused.
Will this administration release data on the impact of fossil emissions on diseases like asthma?
Now show the testing rate over the same time period!
Anti-vaxxers: No.
In my country there has been a huge increase in both ADHD and autism diagnoses the last decades. At the same time in those years the methods to discover both diagnoses have improved greatly.
But you know, correlation does not equal causation..
Mandating helmets for the boys at the front is resulting in many more head injuries!
Yeah, this is like saying “skin cancer rates have increased dramatically in the past 30 years!” Well yeah, because now we have the technology to detect it earlier. That “things increased” stat ignores the complementary “but deaths decreased dramatically” stat that immediately follows it. Before, we didn’t know people had skin cancer until it was killing them. But now, with preventative screenings, public awareness campaigns, etc, people are more likely to get checked before it is a life threatening issue.
It’s the same thing. Detection models got better, so detection rates went up.
- Autism is a spectrum., same as gender ideology. Whether you like it or not, it's true.
- We're better at diagnosis
- Preconceived notions about such things aren't as prevalent, until recently for political reasons
I'm a woman in my 40s who is probably autistic, but back then I was the wrong demographic and "too well behaved" to even consider diagnosis. I'm a typical example people think of when thinking about under diagnosis.
On the other hand, I work with people who have severe learning disabilities who also evaded diagnosis, or were diagnosed well into adulthood as diagnosis is difficult in someone so impaired. In another time, they would have been labelled with a grossly offensive term and just left. Better treatment of disabled people is probably another reason we see rising rates of diagnosis.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Before you get more downvotes, it's a reference folks: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics
This graph will live forever, in intro classes, as an example of how not to do things.
Im confused, it's got both axis labeled and seems pretty easy to read.
Maybe points off for having the labels on the outside rim of the graphic.
Doesn't change the fact that classification of autism also changed over those years, but the graph itself is okay.
Didn't we used to hide it?
Yes. This is an artifact of a destigmatization coupled with better diagnostics for evaluating ASD. More people aren't autistic, more people are being diagnosed and receiving counseling for coping with the neurldivergence in a cold and uncaring neurotypical world.
That's the era they want to drag us back into, even if it costs us suicide and/or substance abuse.
Can somebody smarter than me tell me what this is trying to say? There’s a bar for surveillance year and birth year. But, for instance, 2012 is on the graph twice with different values. What does it mean?
Edit:
I think I got it. The graph is of “Autism rates in 8 year olds over time”. And the X axis should just be year (in 2 year increments).
10 out of a 1000 to 30ish out of a 1000 doesn’t even seem like a massive increase, especially if it’s really due to something like a pain medication that is taken by a huge population. Which it’s not as it’s more related to improvements in diagnosing.
I guess they are just hoping people see bar go up and therefore bad.
There is an 𝑥 axis and it's not too hard to comprehend, although I'd prefer the dividing character to be newline rather than "|", or only show the surveillance year.
Also, the "trendline" is sus, an actual trendline cannot always be above data.
When people say autism they think of the nonverbal kind not the model train kind.