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What is the worst present civilization? And why is our own nation? (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by Amaterasu@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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It is a no brainer that the place that we grew up and the country that we born is fucked up.

Why is that?

Would this feel less painful if we didn't have borders? Free limits, to any region, would make us realize that everywhere is fucked up?

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 days ago

The US Empire, and it isn't close. By far the largest exporter of violence and genocide, the biggest plunderer on the planet towards the global south, with some of the highest wealth disparity in the world. Good thing it's slowly but surely crumbling like Rome.

[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

What is your nation? Perhaps the answer lies in the reason why I need to ask that question?

[–] Amaterasu@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I'm a bit more curious where those that are downvoting live. Do you really like most people from your country and their behave? That is the point of the post. If you can answer that question with no doubt "yes" then I beg you to share the name of this paradise on earth.

[–] Amaterasu@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

How do we get out of this shit?

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 days ago

Worldwide Socialist revolution. Creating a society hostile to the accumulation of wealth, where all means of production are controlled by the workers.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Socialism. Socialist countries are already making tremendous strides for their people, especially when compared to how heavily sanctioned they are and other struggles. To get to socialism, we need to educate ourselves, agitate among the people, and organize!

If you want somewhere to start, I wrote an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

Fire. Lots and lots of fire.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Start by banning religion, then start taxing everyone fairly including companies. Then just be nice to everyone.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Banning religion has never been a good way to deal with it, historically. Secondly, the idea that taxation will solve the inherent contradictions within capitalism is wrong, especially when we live in the era of dying imperialism.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

You want chaos? This has the opposite effect

[–] Meridula@europe.pub 0 points 4 days ago

I wouldn't say it is my own nation. That award probably goes to the US or Northkorea depending on how i weigh things. With mine i do not think everything is great, but there is still hope