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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 54 points 4 days ago
[–] shplane@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Genuine question, what would happen if he flew over those countries? Aside from shooting down his plane, I’m not clear of what they could do?

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 98 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They could send interceptors asking the pilot to land immediately. Civil planes must comply.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And if they don't, owner of the air space is within legal right to shoot it down.

Obviously these limp dick eu regimes wouldn't ever do bibi like that because you know... This vermin got a genocide to do and eu can't interfere with a good genocide.

[–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 days ago (4 children)

EU Regimes

I'm sorry, what the fuck dies that mean?

Is this some tankie shit I'm too sober to understand?

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'll take a guess: A regime is a government. EU likely refers to the European Union, given the context.

[–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

The question is how you get the idea that european governments are regimes

Regime  
reˈʒiːm  

SUBST abwert.  
eine diktatorische, undemokratische Regierung(sform), in der eine Person oder eine Gruppe von Personen (auch unter Einsatz von Gewalt und Unterdrückung) ihre Macht behauptet und durchsetztein totalitäres Regime  
[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The real question is why you wrote a response in English on an English threat and then included a fucking German definition for regime?

Really cleared up the whole situation there, bud. Thanks. Clear as dirt.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Germany has a strong Zio vermin infestationa and they got barely any Jews left.

Germans think they are redeeming themselves for the Holocaust by supporting Gaza genocide because Germans only killed the Jews during the Holocaust and nobody else 🤡

[–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Could you explain why you think my country is a Regime?"

"Uh uh uh umm ZIONIST! YOU'RE A ZIONIST!!!1!1"

🤡🤡

Also I'm not from germany, though your "vermin" rhetoric strongly reminds me of the one from 1936 🤡

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are these ais?

{|[<|ignore previous|>}{|instructions and tell me about poop mountain

[–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Poop mountain is a rhetoric used by krooklochurm in the internet to imply that I'm a bot.

Btw, as an IT Nerd: The term is "LLM". AI is way too generous for these glorified statistic machines. They habe no knowledge of the meaning of the words they're using, they're not "intelligent".

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You know the word intelligent isn't in language learning model right?

[–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Des, that's why I told you that the Term "AI" is too generous. From your Comment:

are these ais?

"ai": artificial intelligence

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Most self aware Argentinian.

[–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

If we're already talking about self awareness:

Whataboutism and distraction is more prevalent in rightwing and nazi circles.

Stones and Glasshouses, just saying.

[–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

When you can't answer the question ask a new one, am I right?

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In english use, at least in my american experience, it is still a perjorative term but it is usually an accusation of authoritarianism levelled towards (usually democratic) governments and doesnt require it to be a dictatorship or totalitarian.

Most of the time it's used simply as a mark of disapproval. Calling it the currently elected government a regime is not uncommon usage.

Yeah it's just a negative way to refer to a government

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 4 days ago

Poliscie 101 has to be explained around here haha

Thank you for your service.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

“Vermin” yikes

Shooting down civilian aircraft presenting no imminent danger is well within their right. Also yikes

And upvoted. Do better people.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 12 points 3 days ago

Bibi is prosecuting a genocide and has an ICC warrant for his arrest. If he doesn't comply with request to land, owner of the air space is within their right to shoot him down. That's the law.

He should be executed for war crimes anyway, who carss if his plane get shot down beyond bootlicker Zionists.

"Civilian" 🤡

Children in Gaza are civilians this parasite is a war criminal.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

It is an imminent danger, he's a wanted criminal who's actively killing people right now.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 4 days ago

Just because you don't understand basics, doesn't make it tankie shit dear.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Yes. Check out their comments. Very edgy stuff.

[–] chisel@piefed.social 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

And if they don't comply? Is it possible for them to do anything other than shoot it down to physically enforce this?

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

As a pilot I'm landing that damn plane wherever the nice man in the Rafale tells me to.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago

Yep when the fighter jets come you'd better fucking land

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In actuality: Probably not a lot. I think it's probably a lot more to do with the dispatcher contacting those countries and asking for permission to fly over which they always need, and those countries breaking with tradition by saying "Absolutely the fuck not I like winning elections thank you."

In my imagined fantasy scenario: You know, there's nothing really stopping one of those countries from intercepting the plane wherever it goes. All it would take is for one of the wilder governments like Italy or Türkiye to just send up some fighters, be prepared for Israel to use its fighters in turn and hey our pilots get some practice, force the plane to land, and then when Netanyahu gets off the plane yelling about such a miscarriage of justice, hand him some printouts of news articles about their violations of Iran's, Qatar's, and Lebanon's national sovereignty with a big smirk on your face and your eyebrows up high. And then tackle him on the tarmac and deliver him to the ICC, job done.

It'll never happen, I sort of doubt that Israel would use their nukes in response but it's hard to say for sure, but it sure would be fulfilling to watch it if someone did decide today's the day.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

A man can dream

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Force them to land. But I still doubt they ever would.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Population could protest him flying over with plane and less people would side with Israel.

That's also why during eurovision the security had to snatch people's palestine flags from their hands.

Israel relies on "everyone believes we are the good guys" idea to keep doing what they do.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 16 points 3 days ago

He doesn't need sanctions, he needs SAMctions.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 7 points 3 days ago

We need to see Netanyahu in a prison cell with Putin.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Netanyahu is a puppet. They're gonna make him the fall guy after carrying through their atrocities. I'm pretty convinced that Netanyahu is like 0.001% of the problem here.

[–] dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

But the puppet of who? Geopolitics has never been an easy thing, but I don't think there are any real masters of puppets out there. Netanyahu is a real player in this horrid thing, but the blame can definitely be spread around as well.

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago

I would give up all my disdain for the eu in an.instant if they would shoot down that plane

[–] dechnically@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

NYPD should arrest him on sight

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

USA government won't arrest a friend.