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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Shouldn't Trump be thanking Comey for going outside procedure right before an election just to say, "Clinton sure is sus" for no reason?

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Idiocracy is sort of like the Left's version of the Great Replacement Theory. And the underlying premise doesn't work for the same reason that the Great Replacement Theory doesn't work.

That being said, Idiocracy's predictions have been scarily prescient. People are making dumber and dumber decisions. But it's not because of dumb people having more children than smart people. It's more due to economic inequality, parents failing to teach their children to think for themselves, people being exposed to more and smarter propaganda, and perhaps things like childhood malnutrition.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The core concept of it, effectively it is eugenics, IQ etc...

The real part of it is, it's not eugenics, it's education that's hitting the spiral. Poorly educated people, keep getting convinced to make education less accessible and worse, leading to more poorly educated people, that vote harder on it, ad infinium.

Bottom line, religion and power structures have found education as their target to limit, and have been for decades.

I do agree the opening of idiocracy really presented some extreme "eugenics" vibes to it. Which also is kind of weird because the end of if basically presented the opposite. Where not sure in his mediocre knowledge starts pushing for education improvements, improving the culture etc... Not sure's conclusion at the end was basically that everyone is ignorant not dumb, and society could gradually be fixed by actually trying.

[–] MrSmiley@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The introduction may be confusing but it wasn’t advocating for eugenics, the movie intro can be viewed as dumb people raise their kids to be dumb, not that intelligence was passed down genetically. And you are correct, religion and power need uneducated people to maintain hegemony.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

where I gotta disagree with you on their framing.

For starters, it's talking evolution. A specific biological process about inherited genes.

"How did this happen? Evolution does not make moral judgments. Evolution does not necessarily reward that which is good or beautiful. It simply rewards those who reproduce the most."

Next point is, it's showing IQ scores. Fans of IQ scores, generally also believe in the studies that imply they are innate, heritable traits.

Sorry but am I completely missing something, is there one part in this intro that even once implies intelligence as, cultural, education, or really says anything other than "smart people have smart kids, if they have them", "dumb people have dumb kids".

Again I hold to the gist, it's a comedy, not meant to be perfectly clear scientific thesis, but the speach from the narrator, is almost always that. even with the ending of "they gave birth to three children, the 3 smartest kids in the world". "his vice president Frido took 8 wives and had 32 kids, the dumbest kids to ever walk the earth".

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s pretty insane that Trump’s being allowed to do this

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Why won't somebody do something

[–] unknown@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They got fired and replaced.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The only people who have the formal power to do something think this is 100% awesome.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Ya fuck. I just wish like people could like work and organize towards civil action or something. If only there was a way. But they have money or something

They're complicit

[–] blave@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The grand jury indicted based on a massive lie which will fall apart in court.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

As is expected when only one side of the story is allowed to be told. It's also why grand juries don't really matter. Any headline referring to one is generally click bait, since alot of people don't know theyr basically just a pretrial checkpoint

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago
[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck this eugenics spouting movie that blames individual weakness over systemic evil.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not eugenics, it's evolution. Eugenics is intentional, the intelligent population in the movie dies off due to unplanned, natural ecological factors. Also, it's a comedy, just chill out.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Intelligence is not a genetic trait. The claim that it is one is a myth used to perpetuate eugenics. It comes from the archaic claim that "black people are inherently less intelligent than white people" because "white people are genetically superior".

It has nothing to do with evolution.

Also, the flimsy excuse "it's just a joke" is simply that: an excuse.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Intelligence is not a genetic trait

Wait, where the hell did you get this idea? Racially? No, intelligence spans significantly from individual to individual regardless of race, but on that individual level, genetics have a significant impact on intelligence.

Not only that, but the movie makes no commentary on race whatsoever, throwing that in is solely your own addition.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Genetics absolutely plays a role, there's a clear distinction between accepting reality and then turning around and using that to justify murder or racism.