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[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It's amazing how much it takes for some to reach the conclusion that systemic change is both necessary and requires... systemic change. As in systems changing. As in greater change than your individual decision to ride an EV or ICEV or public transit. Change that would make it exponentially more intuitive for you to choose the most sustainable one of those options.

Especially if mass transit is not feasible for you, this post is not to shame you or call on you to try and do it anyways. It's a recognition that riding mass transit is not feasible or intuitive for most people, and a call to make mass transit available to more people rather than investing all that time and energy into the wild goose chase of EV adoption.

The crying indian really did a number on us.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

It's great to see that Skeletor and all his "likes" will be switching from gas cars to public transit.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Electric cars are a type of vehicle. Public transit is a type of transportation system that include many different types of vehicles and can include electric cars.

You're comparing apples to orchards.

[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

They aren't doing that, you are. The apples to apples comparison that they are making is our current transit system; with the cars being fully electrified but otherwise as it exists today; versus a transit system that prioritizes mass transit (and walking and biking) over personal vehicles.

Electric cars are a solution to save the auto industry, not the climate.

[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

That's the problem they're pointing out.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago

Horses are even more sustainable and renewable. And tasty if done right.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah in a world where transit isnt a shit show. In my city transit will take you 2 hours to get home when a car will take 20 minutes

[–] valtia@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Then you better be advocating for better public transit

I live in a small town. The town has a couple vans that old people can call to be driven to the doctor. And like all government services and social safety nets, it's gonna be gone by the time it's my turn. If I'm going somewhere, it's my car, my bike or my feet.

[–] bvoigtlaender@feddit.org 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That is true, which makes it so weird to get so much backlash from advocating for good transit in the first place.

Also driving by bike is often times overlooked. In my home town of 10k the supermarket has a us sized parking lot and is located right in the center... Its cheaper for you and others, healthier for you, others and the earth and its safer for others.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

It's not so much the advocating for good transit, it's the using it as an attack on EVs. There's no reason we can't have both.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is true for dense cities, but not in more rural and semi-suburban areas.

[–] valtia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago
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