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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The Matrix. I'm not the only one who said it, but what is so wrong with living in a simulation? The Matrix is not doing anything that inflicts net harm to people. And besides, the real world is in a post-apocalyptic state, it is objectively better to be in the Matrix and live in a safe environment, however both monotonous it can be and fake, than fighting for food and resources and you don't know if the next moment will be your last. I think the last Matrix film kind of acknowledged this plot hole and had humans and technology co-exist.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean, couldn't they have put people in personal heavens? People were cabbies, truck drivers. Neo's best life was working a 9-to-5 so he could party sometimes?

They took people's choice to live and stuck them in a 90s status quo. It's not "churn them into bone bread straight out of the womb" evil but it certainly hasn't stepped into "neutral" territory either.

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[–] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

If you watch the Animatrix, you're more likely to side with the robots too.

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Probably a lukewarm take but Negan in walking dead. He was a brutal asshole, but a strong leader whose group had incredible success in surviving the zombie apocalypse. Rick on the other hand was a wishy washy bitch that ostensibly wanted to live in some kind of peaceful society but always acted on his own or stirred shit against the status quo, resulting in the destruction of a community of survivors.

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago

I really sympathized with Mr Wink and Mr Fibb in the Kids Next Door pilot. Filthy children actually do not belong in swimming pools, Mr. Fibb.

[–] MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not a movie but Arcane s1.

Silco wants the undercity to govern themselves because the wealthy elites of Pilotver can't be bothered to care about the people down there. Every time there's an uprising it's beat back down with police force and the cycle continues.

It's fantastic because when he's first introduced the writers play on stereotypes to make you think he's just a run of the mill villain with a weird facial feature. No, he's trying to achieve revolution.

Not to say he doesn't do some fucked up things to achieve this dream. But that's why he's an actual villain not just a misunderstood good guy. One whose motivations make complete sense.

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[–] wieson@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago

Atomic blonde

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

IDK. All the movies/shows I watch seem to be playing with exactly that theme, be it The Orville, Hacks, Slow Horses, Poker Face...

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[–] trslim@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fritz Lang's Die Nibelungen. My husband and I watched it and towards the end, it tries to make Hagen this honorable man despite being a child murderer and a traitor. I was on Kriemhilds side the entire time, and the Attila and his Huns were way cooler than the Nibelungen.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Read the book Hagen von Tronje or watch the movie.

[–] Calirath@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

'The Battle of Lake Changjin' is based on the eponymous events where the US - under MacArthur - occupies the role of the aggressor nation. The movie itself wasn't noteworthy as it's equivalent to standard Hollywood mediocrity, however my confused mind railed against accepting that the US can be anything other than the protagonist and so served to expand my limited worldview as my media consumption was admittedly US-centric.

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