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how's everyone? it's chuseok here
Merry chuseok! (I didn't know what that was until just now but harvest festivals are the best festivals)
thanks a ton. it's nice out here
huh, didn't realize there were still so many electoralist holdouts on hexbear until the last half year or so. not making a judgment one way or another or trying to feed internet drama, just an observation. it had seemed for a while that the space had turned pretty firmly against that theory of change post-Bernie.
Pretty sure there has been an organized operation to make hexbear less revolutionary that has been gaining significant traction over the last year. By this time next year it'll be a blahaj.zone clone with a better take on the ukraine war.
Less that, I've been more wary of their takes on China and recent color revolutions springing up around the world. Electoralism non-sense does feel like a warning sign all things considered, though.
I've also seen a massive uptick in 'irony-posting' (I don't have a name for it) reminiscent to what I've seen on
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do you mean by state actors? i feel like hexbear is too low impact for that personally. (letting disgruntled people who use the site in bad faith into positions of power, that i do think has happened.)
tbh i think it's mostly underlying contradictions and negative tendencies in the site culture/administration that have always been there, but came to a head in the last year or so. admins have always seen themselves as Vanguard of Posts (rather than what they should be, which is peacekeepers of a chill, cozy community whose focus and culture should be directed by the users). my impression is that that undercurrent kind of erupted after a year or two of relative peace & chill vibes.
A year ago during the "unaccountable and inconsistent moderation" Struggle sessions I was willing to think it was just a random mistake that put the wrong people into power. But those struggles were never resolved and they just kept banning people and addressing "issues" that were not the real problem.
Now here we are where trashing China and staning for a democratic party NYC mayoral candidate are the norm.
If anything the Vanguard of Posters have been ejected from power and the "chill vibes" crypto-liberals are running the place.
They rear their head every time a new AOC/Bernie comes out and then dog pile everyone else, chasing off the more radical and especially anti-imperialist members of that instance (curious). I think the refusal to have a burning zionist flag emoji did cause a lot of non-white users to leave.
I knew of a few popular users that have dipped because of the surge of radlibs. One's gripe was specifically about users dunking on Sakai. Other than that, there is a surge of combative users too. Purpleworm is one to take a look at. I've never seen someone lose their fucking shit over a meme like that, lmao.
I think the refusal to have a burning zionist flag emoji did cause a lot of non-white users to leave.
okay I know I wanted to not stoke internet drama (and this is mostly separate from electoralism stuff) but I will say: that struggle session and the big one late last year really showcased the core issues with the site IMO. culture of administration has always had an undercurrent of bogus Poster's Vanguardism, but admins seem to have radlib politics with chauvinist tendencies (in a majority ML instance, so a user base that's broadly more politically developed than its leadership) and the site has no real democratic input. these contradictions came to a head at various points in the last year, after a year or two of peace & relatively chill vibes.
that's not to mention the impression many have of contempt for the userbase from site management, or the impression that you can get away with a lot of hostility (or tbh outright bullying) if management likes you enough and/or you have enough clout, but that's a discussion for another time.
Sadly thats all too common in irl local chapters/ organized groups as well. I know too many cases where essentially a unofficial clique of friends pick out a pet-issue or cover for someone with reactionary views (or even like being a creep towards female comrades) and then push out any who make a fuss. Of course they will provide a splurge of socialist worded nonsense to justify it.
It gets on my nerves seeing it online replayed.
Where so?
just a lot more DSA posting since Zohran, a few users over there are active members.
Aaaaah, I've seen that. I thought you were talking about main-stream electoral stuff and I was gonna get whiplash that it was starting up this early. Yeah, for as much as that is worth, that really shit the bed when Zionist Mamdani started spitting Israeli propaganda on TV.
Some were very involved in his campaign and do try to recruit on there.
Honestly, I don't mind comrades joining the DSA just because it's a great salt tactic. I've personally had a few lib-adjacents I've pulled away from the DSA. I just think it's a fool's errand to expect anything to ever come of it other than a radicalizing pool.
Funny thing is that they don’t really mind at all. The issue lies with the domination aspect of some pro-electoral people that essentially demand complete subjugation to their view and see whoever is currently the left celeb du jour as the hail mary for change.
Agreed.
There was a big event organized by a left wing party in Mexico and they invited plenty of parties in the world(primarily from Latin America).
It was so big that a lot of Europeans joined it including Serbian, French, Spain, Belarus and Moldovan. There were 3 parties from Russia: komros, KPRF and United Russia.
From Asia, we had Laotian, CPC and Vietnamese. (Edit 1 AND the DPRK's PTC)
In the event, the Venezuelans even explained there socialist communal system and the transition that they are currently planning to make to phase out the outdated representative bourgeois democracy at the base of society. Pretty interesting.
You can check out some of the participants in the following list.
Also, Palestinian comrades joined the event!
Wow so 
is pushing the socialism button?
Yes! There was an english speaking author that was following the process as well and also joined in the explanation during his presentation in the Seminar that I mentioned above. His name is Chris Gilbert and he has a couple of books in case you are interested to learn more.
Website -> https://chrisgilbert.site/books/
Cool! Thanks!
Hope everyone has a pleasant week, sticks with their goals and plans, and takes care of themselves.
Communism will win.
I need to apologise to all the comrades who were saying Corbyn is controlled opposition, a distraction, and no better than Bernie.
You were right all along and I should've seen it back when Corbyn as the Labour leader banned socialists who supported Palestine for supposed "antisemitism" while keeping all the Blairites, neoliberals and imperialists like Starmer. I thought "he has to do that to stay electable and to survive in British parliamentary politics" but the truth of the matter is he was perfectly content to strangle the new party in it's infancy the moment he felt attacked from the left, and suddenly being electable or survival of the party didn't matter at all.
For context, he announced a new party with Zarah Sultana, she quit the Labour party for this, and the moment she went out of line (by launching the membership portal without checking with him first) he immediately threw a public tantrum, threatened legal action, sent a mass mail to all subscribers that the portal is "unautharised" and "if any direct debits have been set up, they should be immediately cancelled" and so on.
The portal was doing great by the way, it had 20,000 paying members within 3 hours of announcement which is completely unprecedented and he wrecked it and completely killed the momentum because he felt threatened by a young, brave, socialist, brown Muslim woman.
Now it seems Zarah has been completely sidelined, there is no mention of her in any communications, and today Corbyn officially registered the party with the Electoral Commission with himself as a sole leader and a transphobic, socially conservative landlord as Nominating Officer.
This is a complete betrayal and I feel sick thinking back to how I kept supporting him. He's a wrecker, I was being a lib and I was wrong.
Yeah he shit the bed massively it seems. Which sucks because he came to our party events a lot but this just looks shit. Fucker.
I have the opportunity to get therapy and it has now led to some heavy introspection to think about how I got to this point. I had to take the day off today because of this. On the one hand it is good to finally get therapy, on the other hand it is tiring.
I'm also feeling let down with party work as basically nothing of value is coming forward. Just a meeting now and then, no real activist or other organising stuff. I'd love for us to start leading by example and set up some direct action stuff in the city but I've already said this a few times without getting a real response.
I spend the weekend in my hometown and that means, for me, spending time in the middle of a blue collar, working class community. I have trouble linking the people that join our party with the typical working class people I grew up with. Or at least the side of the party I am active in. Mostly educated, straight out of college leftist type of people. Which is not wrong per se, but I feel like we are starting to get that type of person tunnel vision, you know? I personally never gratuated college and through blue collar work managed to get where I am now and sometimes our party group feels like losing track with what keeps the working class busy. My dad, working a blue collar job for 30+ years now, does not see the need to sign the umpteenth petition for example. And neither do I feel the need to ask people to sign the umpteenth petition if I had to be honest. We need to do more.
Just a rant and I'll probably figure things out but if you can't reach the working class en masse after more than two decades of right wing policies I feel like you are doing things wrong.
And also, with trust in political parties at an all time low it seems, how much credibility do you think to build up when to them, you seem like just another party asking for votes?
Get out there and show how organising can bring change. Turn that ugly run down piece of land in your neighborhood into a park. Hell, maybe squat an empty building but without the anarchist pissing against the wall tactic. Do something.
I don't know where you live, but where I do, many usually uneducated workers, peasants, and petty bourgeois think it's normal to throw rubbish everywhere. Even educated peoples, which are usually well-off seem to have the same problem, so while building and planning such projects, which in my case is a communal garden, take it as an opportunity to make such basic concepts normalized and encourage more community building along side political agitation. In my experience, the youth are usually the most prone to radicalization, so focus on planting seeds there.
Hope the best
Just heard about a local hospital suing 3,000 of its own patients for medical debt and I've never wanted to do something I can't legally describe more than right now.
Fuck this country, man. This place is evil.
I have internalized learned helplessness the way only a materially comfortable petite bourgoisified first worlder can and I hate that about myself.
Did Hegseth just encourage the army to do even more war crimes? Also on a freudian slip he confirmed that the troops get paid to murder people and pillage stuff 😐
One of the victims of the stabbing in Manchester today was hit by a police bullet and may have died as a result. Can't make that shit up.
I got my reddit account temporarily banned for 3 days.
For context, r/NBA was discussing gambling, and a user said there are wealthy people making a lot of money with gambling. So despite being detrimental to society, gambling isn't going anywhere.
I replied we can stop them by cutting their heads off. Got suspended for violating Rule #1, then deleted the app 😛
I am pretty sure the primary source of revenue for sports leagues right now is their partnership with gambling sites, so unfortunately online gambling is here to stay in sports in most of the world. It's crazy how embedded it has become the last 5-6 years, they put betting lines in the damn broadcast overlay, sports influencers are all sponsored by one of the big online casinos, it has become so normalized that people simply do not watch games without betting.
yeah I'd ban you too for being too merciful
what's keeping yall sane these days? for me.....breakfast.
The progress in AES while the west debates how "tylenol causes autism"
The thought that socialism might actually be achieved in my country in my lifetime…
Soon everything that was lost will soon come back. Not in the form it was before but in a stronger and brighter version.
Socialism is inevitable if we all fight from our respective place. A better world is possible.
holy shit people are fucking ridiculous, man.
leftistgamermemes literally used the word "socialism" to mean the benefits that would be available to all of us under a socialist economy as the concessions given to soldiers in exchange for their service to capital. Is it scientifically correct? No, but it isn't exactly wrong either. The things that your government employee; military or not; and much more, would be readily available to everyone under a socialist governance. Despite the meme doing very well on the page and actually doing okay on chapo, multiple people completely lost their fuckin' shit over a fucking meme I didn't even create.
Is this meme saying that socialism is when politicans get stuff or obviously that a select few enjoy the benefits we all would enjoy under socialism? Like jesus, people are acting like it's saying "socialism is when government does stuff" without looking deeper whatsoever into the context or the fact that it's playing off nostalgia to begin with. I genuinely had someone sitting there and asking me "if I knew how much damage this slop is doing" while at the same time telling me I'm overrepresenting it/deflecting/shifting blame on something I didn't even fucking create. Schrodinger's Slop.
Do veterans control the means of production? Are they democratically represented in government? Beyond some of them getting a pension or some equivalent, is there anything protecting them from the grinding gears of the class society that they are still in the underclass of?
not the tiny small-bean uwu baby-killers that literally get a plethora of benefits for themselves, their spouse and their children for literally servicing a death-machine. The thing protecting them from the "gears of class society" is their service and even then they are given a lot more than your average person to prevent them from "falling down". It as a system just has zero issue shrugging off the undesirables and "useless". There's plenty of soldiers out there who have recognized and realized otherwise, but I'm not going to pretend like most of them are good people. Sadly, a genuine chunk of the good ones killed themselves. I don't mean that in a edgy "haha dead soldier is a good soldier" but the ones high in empathy don't last too long.
I dunno about you but a three month old account seemingly fully dedicated to creating as much argument and division out of a fucking gaming meme screams really weird to me, but then again we have eight people posting the same question repeatedly without any further thinking or consideration than the tik-tok clip of Richard Wolf looping in their brain. Yes, I do know some of them were joking.
So a stabbing at a synagoge in Manchester today. The presumed suspect is an Arab/Middle-Eastern looking man and it is suspected he was wearing a bomb belt too.
This is just going to accelerate the already sky high tensions between white supremacists and the rest.
i must organize in order to live. life without a political purpose or motivation is to accept the suffering of millions. i love organizing with all my heart!
Protests in Peru
Reinstate Castillo already.
The coup was a rightwing putsch.
The Global Sumud Flotilla is less than 150 nm from Gaza: https://globalsumudflotilla.org/tracker/#help
Armed Queers group has communist ties to China, Cuba #communism #Cuba #fbi #socialism #china
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9313943
^ Seems the FBI and DoD and wider "intelligence" community are gunning for some sort of pretext to oppress us...