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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

It was the answer ten years ago now we are in an authoritarian technofacist oligarchy that is “disappearing” people…..womp womp. Day late and a private airplane bribe short there NYT

[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 hours ago

I'm here for the headline but the content was disappointing. Mamdani got more votes for his mayoral primary win than the Republican who beat Osborn for the Nebraska Senate in the general election (Mamdani 573k in round 2, 499k for Fischer (R), 436k for Osborn (D)).

So who does this guy talk about for most of the article? Osborn, of course.

Look, I get that there will probably be a mix of Osborns and Mamdanis and everything in between and probably even outside of that landscape. There will be people I will have to hold my nose and vote for because they will go after the literally evil billionaires preying on all of us, even if we won't get their support for marginalized groups.

Even Ta Nehisi Coates said that he would have supported FDR in his recent sit down with class traitor Ezra Klein, even though FDR sold black Americans down the river.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Weird how the media still won't acknowledge the progressives have control of the DNC & the neo-libs are on the way out.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

lol what? Progressives absolutely do not have control over the Democratic Party. They’re the only ones doing anything so they get the media attention, but the neo-libs still hold all of the power in the party.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Yes, if you bothered to read the entire thread you'd see I just learned Hogg was pushed out in June, thanks.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Since when? I thought they used procedural bullshit to keep Hogg out

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

God damnit, you're right, I missed that in June.

In that case, burn it down.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 10 hours ago

The Progressives are the only segment of the left that has any concept of what they are doing or has a plan for the future. The rest are just flailing aimlessly, and reacting incompetently to MAGA treason, abuse, and corruption.

Their primary priority seems to be preventing a Progressive takeover by any means necessary, including helping MAGA to win, rather than allow a progressive administration.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 day ago

Man. FUCK the nyt.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 104 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

NYT? is that the same NYT that was telling Democrats for decades that the only reason they aren't winning is because they aren't Republican enough?

OK, gift article, you have my attention...

...nah, it's just more of the same


edit: I was listening to a Cory Doctorow interview yesterday and he had some very interesting things to say and I was reminded of this article again. Talk was long, interesting and meandering, but this was one of the things that reminded me

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 30 points 2 days ago

The moment I saw it was NYT, my eyebrows were raised.

And yep. It's the same BS.

[–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the TL:DR flavor text.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 78 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Oligarchy destroyed the social contract and forced nihilism amongst the youth. It's why the entire world is tilting authoritarian. Democrats need to pivot hard into proper wealth taxation otherwise things will only devolve further. It's a moral imperative at this point.

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

forced nihilism amongst the youth

As they say, idle hands spend time at the genitals!

Even in Canada they are they trying to enact patriot act style legislation to appease American companies... and there is not now, nor has there ever been, a terrorist justification for it.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Americans need to learn to differentiate between the vehicle and the driver. The democratic party will not affect change until the vast majority of it's sitting members are primaried.

No need to fix an election when the rich own all the horses in the race.

[–] 0tan0d@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It would be nice if people under 50 showed up to the primary. Most incumbent wins are just old people using name recognition to "not rock the boat".

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, everybody under 50 has to work at the capitalism on Tuesdays.

We're technically 'allowed to leave', but will fall behind on rent immediately. All three sick days have been used up.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yea we keep making random national holidays on every day but voting day. Its crazy how we can just add a banking holiday when ever, but chose not to do November 5th

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Louder for DC ig.

Maybe we just write the bills and invent semi convincing press releases for them now as ratification.

Turning it over a few ways... How would that be for a all in general strike day? pro and con. Mostly pro?

I mean the big problem is always actually The Bills, The Job, The Kids/Dependants, getting there. (and i.d. if you can't afford to rent an address).

(edit, add last paragraph)

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 1 points 7 hours ago

general strike/bbq holiday until it becomes national?

The more I live to think on it, the more I think tailgating(sport potluck in farm machinery) may be the missing piece of the modern american strike in mainstream thought.

relatable mobile potluck.

It's absolutely there on the ground in left protest culture. I mean, any protest big enough or long enough eventually has real anarchists doing their classic number of show up to feed everyone, with alergy and creed options, usually.

Personally I can stand some YeeHaw if everybody gets equity.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wealth taxation may be an important men's to an end, but in our discourse we need to emphasize more what benefits would be planned for the tax revenue.

Reducing the wealth of greedy assholes is nice, but by itself only gets so far.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yea. that's kind of the problem, no one in power has a plan for education, healthcare, housing, wage stagnation, two-tiered job market, or anything really. But one of the benefits would be not running up a deficit. We spend way too much on interest payments, and we really don't see the pay off for the money being borrowed. It's time for a new government the old one broke itself with greed.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The comments section is closed with a pinned request of the author shocked he got backlash.

I wish I could follow up with this guy.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Probably call the editor for approving it.

[–] ChaosCharlie@lemmy.ca 80 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (2 children)
  • NYT "Eat the Rich Populism": Angrily posting memes at a few select right-wing billionaires and a bunch of foreigners, particularly in China

  • Actual "Eat the Rich Populism": Nationalizing critical infrastructure that's being horded by the billionaire class in the aggregate

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nationalizing? I hope you mean socializing

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

He means, we're going to take back all the shit we paid for. All that socialize the cost privatize the profits infrastructure & R&D are ours now. Nationalize everything, trump already created precedent with the intel deal. They took our money we take their company. Glory to USSofA

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Start with Space X and Starlink. We paid for all of that. Musk got rich by skimming billions from government contracts. Take all that money back, too.

He can keep Tesla, it will be bankrupt in 2 years anyway.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Nah, let's take Tesla's factories and repurpose them for agricultural drones. Although I have a tinfoil hat theory that these factories will be used to make a domestic use drone army.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Easy. We nationalize the government too. That way it owns itself, and we own the government. No more billionaires in politics.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Pull up the societal ladders that allow people to become billionaires in the first place. Transferring a nations wealth from 5 pairs of hands to 10 pairs of hands once a generation is not a realistic long term governance

After FDR the establishment has done everything possible to prevent this.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Democrats are the crisis that they manufactured

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

IMO people need to rally behind new progressive candidates and primary more than 50% of the sitting party in 2026. About 75% of the party are incompetent at best and complicit at worst.

People need to look past the individual members of the progressive caucus like AOC and realize the monumental organization it took to get her elected.

Republicans fix elections. Democrats fix primaries.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Progressives need messaging and a concise platform. 'Fix housing, healthcare, inflation, immigration, monopolies, LGBT rights, income inequality, unemployment, gerrymandering, climate, education....' Everyone who's even capable of listening past 4 objectives knows they're not all going to happen and assumes that means they're all bullshit.

I've really been liking "Tax wealth not work" but I'll take anything stronger than "return to normalcy."

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

I’ll take anything stronger than “return to normalcy.”

You mean the normalcy that allowed Trump1.0 to happen in the first place, and allowed Trump2.0 to grab and pervert as much power as he has now? I fully agree, there is a larger lesson to be learned from all this than "phew, thankfully the Democrats won this time, and Trump can't run again". There are systemic problems behind all this.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The problem is that Progressives are about... progress. And we all have our own priorities.

If you make the entire platform "Trans rights" then you are going to have women and "minorities" wondering why you are abandoning them and so many others wondering about economic support and so forth.

Don't believe me? Look at how many dumbfucks proudly turned the 2024 Presidential election into a single issue election where, somehow, they still decided that Biden (Kamala who?) would be worse than trump when it comes to Palestine. EVERYTHING else was ignored.

Whereas chuds just want to hurt people. And while they might prefer their bogeyman get hurt more, they can still be happy to know that at least THOSE people are getting hurt.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The problem isn't focusing on one issue. The problem is that periodically, performative centrists will seek to prove their centrism by performatively sacrificing a minority group on the pyre.

Democrats are a coalition party. They can't afford to sacrifice a chunk of their base in a vain attempt to appeal to suburban white Republicans. Democrats need to keep their coalition together, which is far more diverse than the Republican coalition that mostly caters to straight white Christians.

Democrats from time to time are tempted to pick one or two of the minority groups in their coalition to throw into a woodchipper. The thought process is that if they just sacrifice the one group the right is screaming the loudest about, that somehow they can get Republicans to vote Democrat. It never works, but it plays to the biases of the Democratic leadership, who themselves are largely straight white Christians.

2024 wasn't about Palestinian activists demanding the entire campaign be made about them. What happened in 2024 was that Democrats decided that it was the Palestinian-Americans turn to be thrown onto the pyre, a ritual sacrifice to attempt to win straight white Christian votes. The leadership made the calculus that by sacrificing Palestinian Americans, they would gain more votes than they would lose. Muslim Americans would inevitably refuse to support Democrats for abandoning them, but Democrats would gain more Republican and Zionist voters in return. The DNC didn't want Palestinians and their allies to vote for them; they wanted Republicans to vote for them.

That calculus didn't work. The Palestinians had a lot more friends than the DNC gambled when they decided to sacrifice them. And it cost the Democrats the election.

Ultimately, what side would be best for Palestine is completely irrelevant. This was an active conscious choice on the part of DNC leadership. They actively chose to abandon Palestinians and their allies. They did so knowing full well it would cost them a ton of votes. They just gambled that they would win more bigot votes in return. That gamble failed, and then they turned around and blamed the loss on the people they fully expected to not vote for them, entirely due to their own conscious choices and actions.

Not even the DNC are stupid enough to expect the votes of people they deliberately choose to sacrifice. But, apparently that bar isn't one you're able to clear.

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[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Progressives would naturally do better in elections if they didn’t have 2 parties spending billions of dollars to keep them out of power.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Progressives need to fully commit to grass roots electoral organization.

Republicans fix elections, democrats fix primaries.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's a little beside the point, but:

75% of the party are incompetent at best and complicit at worst.

Compared to Republicans, where the number is practically 100%.

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[–] MrSmiley@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago

Democrats have been discussing strategy since their loss in November. They’ve come up with use populist rhetoric for elections but stick to neoliberal policy.

Oh is it finally time to eat?

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