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I respect people's right to use apple products, but please stop asserting "privacy", big corps doesn't give a shit.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I find it hilarious that anyone thinks apple cares about privacy. They clearly have been cultivating that image but it rings pretty hollow to me. They just chose something that would be easy to say they care about that an ad company clearly also doesn't care about.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 3 days ago (5 children)

They care about privacy as they consider themselves the owner of your data.

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[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

My biggest issue with the alternative phones is I'm not paying a massively inflated price for bad hardware just because it's using free software, sorry. Same goes for Framework laptops. I will tolerate paying a premium, but everything about the device must match the price tag.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Idk what I'm gonna do if the F-Store stops working.

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[–] j4k3@piefed.world 22 points 4 days ago

Google: app developers use the zygote loading system to create an everpresent preloaded bedroom on your device with access to whatever they want in sensor hardware access and monitoring. It is essentially like a full equivalent computer user in parallel. This is how it just works while the (exploited-mark) human user is ignorant about operating systems, networking, and security. They have full equivalent access because you do not understand the details. Again these are full equivalent users. They are likely intimately preset with you more than any other partner... If they are there for stalkerware digital slavery, to sell your digital person for exploitation and manipulation, such a transaction is much like prostitution. The motivations of developers that are not whoring people out are mostly benevolent, altruistic, or taking a stand to support liberal democratic freedom. So in essence google is a digital slaver running a loose coalition of independent developer pimps that collectively enslave your digital person for manipulation and exploitation.

Apple: is a central fascist neo feudal lord that centralizes the exploitation and slavery under a single market forum where they directly manipulate and extort every developer and slave. Apple is the stalkerware data salver selling the exact same data to manipulate and extort users just like google.

The difference has been an open market free for all of privateer piracy raiding the coast of Africa to fuel the Southern plantations and flying the Jolly Roger of google, versus the matrix growing humans in a vast vat field with the Jolly Roger of Apple on the side of the buildings. To call one different than the other in terms of privacy is a joke as sour as US politics represents a balanced spectrum of interests. It is all stalkerware data slavery ownership of a part of an individual's physical person for exploitation and manipulation. Open Source software is the last bastion fortress of real citizens in a democracy fighting off zombie pirates flying a Jolly Roger. This is a choice between Apple vanishing people and Google abducting them from the fortress.

ROMs are the red pill, a revolver, and a place to stay for fightimg for freedom from the 21st century digital slavery phase of neo fascism, and its coming total war 3.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How are devs supposed to test their apps on devices before they publish?

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They can upload their ID to google, pay $25 USD, and then sign their apps using their own signing key which was pre-approved by Google.

Its the same for apple, but I think their fees are like $99 per year.

There are also reports of Google potentially leaving in a ADB bypass for it.

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm sorry I'm not buying a Linux phone or similar for the same reason I'm not going to become a mechanic to drive a car. I want to activate my SIM card and go. Out of the box. I don't want to have to know about kernel access side booting in dev mode. People like me are the primary user base for most devices.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Hardware really needs to be opened. So many issues are caused by people being unable to get away from large company control due to them beinf the only ones able to get decent hardware.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I wanna run away to live with dogs like Diogenes. I'll live in a basket and piss and shit in the streets. No spyware phone required.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Week 4 on GrapheneOS:

This is the best. I should have done this years ago.

Even IF all you care about is performance, this is the option. Fastest pocket derputer I've used in my life.

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[–] Berlinblades@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

What are the consequences for Lineage OS?

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It won't affect you in any way directly. The issue is it very well may affect what apps are available and regularly updated on Fdroid and other app stores or repos.

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What Linux based phones are actually worth trying? Something not built on old hardware, and can actually install apps, messages people and work as a phone. And that I won’t have to chase issues and bug fixes on nonstop to keep it working. Something stable for daily use, works in multiple countries, and not just something to play around with.

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[–] gleb@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

it doesn’t matter if apple cares about privacy. corpos shouldn’t have this data in the first place.

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[–] VampirePenguin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Once my GrapheneOS phone goes out of service, I may just go back to flip phones. I actually kind of hate smartphones and their corrosive effect on the world. The convenience isn't worth the loss of privacy, empowerment of bad actors, and psychological/societal damage. I can live without it. I'll just do computery stuff on real computers on my own schedule.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

I'm just saying that you can uninstall stuff from your smart phone.

Use it for phone stuff, not computer stuff.

But hey, don't let me tell you what to do. Have fun.

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