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You know. This oddly actually makes me feel a bit better about this.
Me too!
Unless the universe is truly infinite, then from the point of view of your continuity of consciousness, you will never die, because they will always be somewhere in infinity where you're exact current consciousness picks right up after you die without a blip.
I don't think that's how infinity works
Edit: thinking about it some more, there's nothing to say that's how consciousness works either lol
Something about "there's an infinite amount of numbers between 0 and 1, but none of them is 2" idk
In an infinite universe every configuration of matter that can possibly exist will just due to the laws of statistics. Meaning in an infinite universe there's are infinite identical copies of this solar system exactly as it is, isn't, and everything in-between. Since you obviously can't observe your life if you're dead, in such a universe you will always experience your point of view from the position of a living copy somewhere else that was identical up until that point. Now of course its not the other you physically. But if the mind is exactly the same it is you mentally.
Its more or less the star trek transporter problem taken to a logical extreme. If you step into a star trek transpoter and are reassembled with identical memories elsewhere, are you still you? If its yes, it must also be yes for the universal thought experiment.
I mean yeah, sure, maybe. You're making some pretty lofty claims based on a philosophical thought experiment about a phenomenon we still don't really understand though.
Because I forgot what it was like
what i'm scared of is not getting to experience things, the fact that i missed out on history isn't much better but at least that was rather difficult to do anything about..
it's like finding an amazing book and thinking about when you'll have read it all, it just fucking sucks
Living in recent times, there's a lot of historic events happening I'd rather not be around for. Just wait until the climate collapse stops playing around with foreshadowing and the dildo of consequences arrives
Idk, sounds kinda scary. Idk what it was like before, because I lacked consciousness to experience it. And the idea that it all ends, back to nothingness forever. We live a few years. Pretty much nothing, if we consider the forever before, and the forever after our existence.
It's something I recall fearing as a kid, due to the scary unknown. Glad to have enjoyed a decade of bliss. Too bad the fear has come back to haunt me. It's not constant, though. Sometimes it comes, outta nowhere. Real strong. Not fun. But I don't live day to day in fear.
The thing is, once youre dead, there won't be consciousness, you will not have any perception of a void, you won't know anything because you will not be.
Marc Maron put it into good perspective. He was hiking in the hills and passed out. He noted that he could very well have been dead, and that would have been that. He wasnt scared because he wasnt conscious.
You can't be afraid when you dont exist and you will not be aware of anything.
I don't believe in God nor am I religious, but consciousness just feels so fucking weird man. Everything in the world can be explained through science and physics, cause and effect, hell even our brains and actions are just a chain of atoms interacting. But consciousness just feels so out of place. Why am I? Why am I even aware of my own existence? Why has a set of atoms resulted in my non-material consciousness? It feels so out of place. Why isn't it just a bunch of atoms bumping into eachother, why am I capable of feeling and thinking?
I think about this more than anything in those quiet "run the brain's existential dread garbage collection routine" moments.
Self aware consciousness is just so wild. Like you say, how does it even exist? But it's also so common on our little planet here (even if we only count the humans) that it is as commonplace as it is spectacular.
It feels like this magical "extra" thing, but at the same time the evidence kinda suggests it's just something that naturally happens once you get complex life.
The weirdest thing to me is that it's literally impossible to measure and detect whether something has consciousness. Every other thing in our universe can be measured theoretically, even if not by our current tools, but there is no way to confirm that someone else is experiencing what I am experiencing currently. It's just so weird.
It's not the death part that scares me. It's the transition between living and dead that's going to suck.
But then I had a really terrible November 2024 and am still suffering a high-suicidality psychotic break, so my opinion might be biased.
Well for what it's worth I'm glad you're still around to contribute to the conversation :)
What a great fact, I love it.
I have never experienced unending nothingness, only noted the nothingness after it was over
I'm looking forward to the nothingness, the first 14billion years was nice enough. It's the time between everyday life and nothingness that worries me.
Just had a friend die of a heart attack while working in construction with his friends. Didn't make it to the hospital.
That's how I want to go. Just times up one day.
Let me go back to my eternal slumber
Nothingless void is as believable as afterlife. From scientific point of view neither make sense, it's like we're giving ourseleves some metaphysical distinctiveness from the rest of universe but are merely physical bodies inside of it according to our scientific knowledge. And according to that we precisely know what's after death: we rot in grave, and that's it. But that answer is not satisfying for us, because what we call our consciousness will stop existing at some point, and we try to find logical state of us, when there is no longer us. I don't really think it's possible to describe how's that like at all.
Nothingness void is just another phrase for "irreversible loss of consciousness. Which is orders of magnitudes more believable than afterlife.
But why call it void if there's no void at all? Or nothingness. There's only void and nothingness when universe ends (according to facts about our universe). Yet people still think about it as a state of our consciousness, when there is no really any 'state' after we die. It's like NULL
vs UNDEFINED
or uninitialized variable in programming, or at least I see this that way.
My current self wants to look at more cute bees and sniff more sunflowers. It doesn't matter if my future self wouldn't care (on account of not existing), my current self still really wants to do more of that.
Tbf nobody has ever experienced either because experience is exclusive to being alive and conscious
apparently I literally tried to strangle myself on my umbilical cord in the womb but my take on that was that I knew what was coming.
And came out screaming, so I'm on the fence on this one
Because there is no coming back.
We only get one ride in this rollercoaster and half of us want to make the ride living hell for the rest of us.
Half? Try an alarmingly small number and they are damn good at it.
The key is to accept that the end of consciousness is a feature of existence, and not a bug.