this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2025
89 points (71.5% liked)

196

4555 readers
1876 users here now

Community Rules

You must post before you leave

Be nice. Assume others have good intent (within reason).

Block or ignore posts, comments, and users that irritate you in some way rather than engaging. Report if they are actually breaking community rules.

Use content warnings and/or mark as NSFW when appropriate. Most posts with content warnings likely need to be marked NSFW.

Most 196 posts are memes, shitposts, cute images, or even just recent things that happened, etc. There is no real theme, but try to avoid posts that are very inflammatory, offensive, very low quality, or very "off topic".

Bigotry is not allowed, this includes (but is not limited to): Homophobia, Transphobia, Racism, Sexism, Abelism, Classism, or discrimination based on things like Ethnicity, Nationality, Language, or Religion.

Avoid shilling for corporations, posting advertisements, or promoting exploitation of workers.

Proselytization, support, or defense of authoritarianism is not welcome. This includes but is not limited to: imperialism, nationalism, genocide denial, ethnic or racial supremacy, fascism, Nazism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, etc.

Avoid AI generated content.

Avoid misinformation.

Avoid incomprehensible posts.

No threats or personal attacks.

No spam.

Moderator Guidelines

Moderator Guidelines

  • Don’t be mean to users. Be gentle or neutral.
  • Most moderator actions which have a modlog message should include your username.
  • When in doubt about whether or not a user is problematic, send them a DM.
  • Don’t waste time debating/arguing with problematic users.
  • Assume the best, but don’t tolerate sealioning/just asking questions/concern trolling.
  • Ask another mod to take over cases you struggle with, if you get tired, or when things get personal.
  • Ask the other mods for advice when things get complicated.
  • Share everything you do in the mod matrix, both so several mods aren't unknowingly handling the same issues, but also so you can receive feedback on what you intend to do.
  • Don't rush mod actions. If a case doesn't need to be handled right away, consider taking a short break before getting to it. This is to say, cool down and make room for feedback.
  • Don’t perform too much moderation in the comments, except if you want a verdict to be public or to ask people to dial a convo down/stop. Single comment warnings are okay.
  • Send users concise DMs about verdicts about them, such as bans etc, except in cases where it is clear we don’t want them at all, such as obvious transphobes. No need to notify someone they haven’t been banned of course.
  • Explain to a user why their behavior is problematic and how it is distressing others rather than engage with whatever they are saying. Ask them to avoid this in the future and send them packing if they do not comply.
  • First warn users, then temp ban them, then finally perma ban them when they break the rules or act inappropriately. Skip steps if necessary.
  • Use neutral statements like “this statement can be considered transphobic” rather than “you are being transphobic”.
  • No large decisions or actions without community input (polls or meta posts f.ex.).
  • Large internal decisions (such as ousting a mod) might require a vote, needing more than 50% of the votes to pass. Also consider asking the community for feedback.
  • Remember you are a voluntary moderator. You don’t get paid. Take a break when you need one. Perhaps ask another moderator to step in if necessary.

founded 8 months ago
MODERATORS
 

Can't believe I had to have this conversation again today, with someone who should know better. You can't just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

Edit to add more context:

Rice burner is a pejorative term originally applied to Japanese motorcycles and which later expanded to include Japanese cars or any East Asian-made vehicles. Variations include rice rocket, referring most often to Japanese superbikes, rice machine, rice grinder or simply ricer.

Riced out is an adjective denigrating a badly customized sports car, "usually with oversized or ill-matched exterior appointments". Rice boy is a US derogatory term for the driver or builder of an import-car hot rod. The terms may disparage cars or car enthusiasts as imposters or wanna-bes, using cheap modifications to imitate the appearance of high performance.

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

Source.

I'd like you to read this from a guy who's father is from the Philippines. His mother is American. Then have a good think about it. Actually think about it for a day or so.

Palting: (reenlist forums)

*When you call a car a "ricer", you are saying that it is not a nice car, possibly even an atrocious car. I don't believe you will ever hear a statement like "Look at that gorgeous ricer!!" So, in response to the question, is it derogatory, the answer is that the term ricer is most definitely derogatory.

The question then becomes, is it racist? The term "ricer" was coined to denote the cars that were made in Japan or Korea that were subsequently modded and are obnoxious to the observer. You can ask 100 people what car brand comes to mind when you say "ricer" and 100 of them will come up with an Asian brand. Ask those same 100 people what country or race comes to mind, and 100 will say some Asian country. We can safely say that "ricer" would indicate the Asian culture where rice is the staple food. We can define a term racist if the term pertaining to a race or a race's cultural character is considered derogatory. Therefore, the term ricer is most definitely racist.

If, lets say, one of the African nations built a car, would you call it a "******"? The term "ricer" most definitely belongs in the same category as ******, slant-eyes, gook and what have you. Shame on anyone who uses the term and who does not realise it is very definitely racist.

My mother is from the USA, my father is from the Philippines. I was born and raised in the Philippines. I am a Filipino. I am not a "halfer", nor "mestizo", nor anything other than a Filipino national who chose to reside in the US as an American citizen.*

Source.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You can't just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

Well then, I hope you never use the word slave, slavery, or any of the derived words, seeing as etymologically they're a pejorative for Slavic people. And that's just the first example that comes to mind.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 8 hours ago

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

*Taps the sign.*

[–] SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

everyone will feel offended at anything you say.

nice example of a philippino person being offended by it.

if i told my philippino friend abt it he'd dismiss these concerns.

different strokes for different folks.

bottom line: playing word police is problematic in itself.

just don't be a dick and you're good.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

*Taps the sign.*

[–] SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

a lot of everyday words or even slang can be described as offensive or racist if the listener deems them this way - or because the history of certain words is rooted in racism.

you wanna tell the whole linux community that "ricing" is an offensive term?

you wanna tell marxists that quote "it's either socialism or barbarism" that the term "barbarian" is a racist term used by romans?

you wanna tell polish boomers that they shouldn't say "a jew hung himself" to refer to windy weather?

a miniscule amount of people think about the racial or xenophobic implications because certain things are too ingrained in society.

keep the spirit up, you go guys, but these things won't go away for the next few generations.

stuff like this just fuels infighting with no real goal. - fighting actual racism and systemic racism. getting hung up on unimportant details will just alienate people who'd be sympathetic to the cause.

we also likely live in different societies so we have different approaches to how racism is perceived. this discourse reeks of being american.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 hours ago

we also likely live in different societies so we have different approaches to how racism is perceived. this discourse reeks of being american.

jfc not everyone on the internet is american.

[–] taygaloocat@leminal.space 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Such nitpicking for such an insignificant problem. Shit like this is why the Left fell so hard and now we're stuck with Drumpf

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not everyone on the internet is American 💜

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Trump and the hard right are not a uniquely American problem, stuff like this is more straw for their imagined leftist extremist strawman. At least you get to feel righteous. * taps sign *

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Not everywhere on earth is like America 💜

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Tell that to AfD in Germany, FdI in Italy, FN in France, Neo-Nazis in Australia, Vox in Spain, etc...

But keep imagining that finding new no-no words to police will do anything to weaken their messaging 💜

[–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Calling the term "rice" in connection to focusing on aesthetics over preformance racist just seems insane to me. There are objectly racist uses of the word rice to harm Asians. However when 99% of the community never even correlated this useage of the word to anything derogatory twords asians, and even use it positivly when someone genuinely likes JDM or overbuilt cars, the word stops being racist

You cant claim racist undertones to a word when people don't corelate that word whatsoever to anything derogatory twords Asians. The modern use of the word spoke about a car that looked like a racecar but didn't have the preformance of one, making it "ugly", and then branched to become a positive term when talking about putting lots of efforts into the aesthetic of something

The evolution of the word is not a moral failing but a redirection from a derogatory borderline slur to a word that captures the idea of "looks over preformance"

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

*Taps the sign.*

[–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Reading through your responses it seems you really dont give a fuck about actually having discussion. Your view is right and everyone else is wrong, because of the simple fact "racism bad"

Theres no reason to ever redirect a racist phrase into something positive and completely seperated from its racist past, dispite the community at large already doing that. Words cannot change or evolve, and any word with even an inkling of negativity should be banned from ever being spoken (/s). I specifically called out that rice can be used in a racist and as a borderline slur, but that the modern useage of the word is painfully obviously removed from that connotation: considering the massive amount of people under this post also claiming they have never used, or even knew, the word could at all relate to degrading asians.

Oh and since you've responded often rejecting opinions just because "its a white person claiming its not racist" let me ask you, how many Japanese people (since the old meaning of the word was specifically targeted at the japanese) do you know take genuine offence to the word? Because funnily enough my Japanese friends in the car scene love calling things riced out

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

There is literally a person in this thread who says they're uncomfortable about the usage?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

BTW, have you actually asked any of your friends about the term? Because plenty of minorities will just play along with slurs because calling it out is hard and results in *gestures broadly* this sort of response. Just like trans people often won't call out when they're deadnamed or misgendered. Or autistic people not calling out when the r-slur is used. It's kind of pretty common.

[–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well with how often they use the word freely themselves, I'd assume they like the word. But I did ask and yes they like the word, and were very confused why I needed to ask LMAO

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Fair enough. Still doesn't change that there's someone in this thread who'd prefer it wasn't used. Dunno what to tell you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 57 minutes ago

I mean thats the thing with any word. If someone tells you their uncomfortable with the useage of it ill either stop using that word around them or remove myself from the conversarion. However I don't think its right to ban a word completely that has evolved into a simple meaning of "looks over or at the cost of preformance"

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Why would I ask them without any prompting or context? They don't interact with any communities that use it or know how it's origin. Seems like a leading question with no constructive purpose other than to remind them that they should feel sad/angry about who they are as a person.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, I must've been mistaken, was I talking to you lovely?

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 58 minutes ago

Ah so no actual response; no discussion to be had on when and where support is necessary and what we can do to meet that need. Very constructive, thank you. Glad to know your position is so hollow and self serving.

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like a lot of people here need to stop taking this information so damn personally. You didn't know, great, that means you're not racist. Now you do know. So just... Stop? That's it. OP wasn't even a dick about it.

Personally, I'm grateful when I get a heads up that certain terms are racist, so thank you OP!

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (5 children)

My ex was Korean and she used the term rice rocket when I mentioned I wanted a Mitsubishi Lancer because it's a cool fast Japanese car. Asians aren't a monolith that all think one term or another should be verboten. Assuming all Asians think the term "rice" is a slur is just arrogance.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

That's our word

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Juice@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I got called out for saying this once, and went back and looked it up. I had meant it sort of neutrally, and there are a lot of neutral uses of it out there, but there are probably just as many clearly negative/racist uses of it, and practically no positive uses.

There's a way of being a racist that is like crypto-racism. It appears neutral, but actually moves the ball forward for racists. And my experiences with many many different kinds of people, is that the people who are best at this are like hardcore Nazis.

I personally am not someone who thinks that advocacy and allyship begins and ends with saying or refusing to say certain words. I think there are a lot of really serious problems with the current liberal establishment posture towards race, where you continue to be heavily and unfairly exploited, and now imprisoned or deported because of skin color, but politically we will make sure people aren't allowed to say certain words anymore. But also being conscientious of our speech is a part of it, whether we like it or not. Ultimately it isnt some great loss of my freedom if I decide to call a Yamaha motorcycle a "Yamaha" instead of a "ricer". I have a large enough vocabulary that I can spare a word or two.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I think there are a lot of really serious problems with the current liberal establishment posture towards race, where you continue to be heavily and unfairly exploited, and now imprisoned or deported because of skin color, but politically we will make sure people aren't allowed to say certain words anymore.

You're absolutely right, you can't begin and end your advocacy with no longer using certain words. That's why I'm out protesting, where I can, for causes like Palestinian recognition, Israeli sanctions and Changing the Date.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Glad to hear! What is Changing the date? I'm also active politically, too few people are though

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In Australia, we celebrate a national holiday on the anniversary of Captain Cook's invasion of Australia. Indigenous Australian's therefore don't feel like they can celebrate, and alongside allies, advocate for changing the date. Protests on that day also advocate for truth-telling as well as other actions discussed in the Uluru Statement from the Heart.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm stoked that there is a mass indigenous support movement in your country. In the USA, there are indigenous support groups, but mostly NGOs without mass mobilizations. Ive never heard of indigenous rights brought up in the same sentence as Palestinian liberation, except in the abstract. Which could be a symptom of the whiteness of American leftist movements, but I'm pretty plugged in to what's going on in my area and nationally

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago

Ive never heard of indigenous rights brought up in the same sentence as Palestinian liberation, except in the abstract.

Not just in the same sentence! At every indigenous rights protest I've been too since the war started, Palestinian groups have been guests of honour, as they have a shared struggle against colonialism.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Absolutely wild to me. From my experience, Toyotas are way more reliable than Fords.

load more comments
view more: next ›