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Can't believe I had to have this conversation again today, with someone who should know better. You can't just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

Edit to add more context:

Rice burner is a pejorative term originally applied to Japanese motorcycles and which later expanded to include Japanese cars or any East Asian-made vehicles. Variations include rice rocket, referring most often to Japanese superbikes, rice machine, rice grinder or simply ricer.

Riced out is an adjective denigrating a badly customized sports car, "usually with oversized or ill-matched exterior appointments". Rice boy is a US derogatory term for the driver or builder of an import-car hot rod. The terms may disparage cars or car enthusiasts as imposters or wanna-bes, using cheap modifications to imitate the appearance of high performance.

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

Source.

I'd like you to read this from a guy who's father is from the Philippines. His mother is American. Then have a good think about it. Actually think about it for a day or so.

Palting: (reenlist forums)

*When you call a car a "ricer", you are saying that it is not a nice car, possibly even an atrocious car. I don't believe you will ever hear a statement like "Look at that gorgeous ricer!!" So, in response to the question, is it derogatory, the answer is that the term ricer is most definitely derogatory.

The question then becomes, is it racist? The term "ricer" was coined to denote the cars that were made in Japan or Korea that were subsequently modded and are obnoxious to the observer. You can ask 100 people what car brand comes to mind when you say "ricer" and 100 of them will come up with an Asian brand. Ask those same 100 people what country or race comes to mind, and 100 will say some Asian country. We can safely say that "ricer" would indicate the Asian culture where rice is the staple food. We can define a term racist if the term pertaining to a race or a race's cultural character is considered derogatory. Therefore, the term ricer is most definitely racist.

If, lets say, one of the African nations built a car, would you call it a "******"? The term "ricer" most definitely belongs in the same category as ******, slant-eyes, gook and what have you. Shame on anyone who uses the term and who does not realise it is very definitely racist.

My mother is from the USA, my father is from the Philippines. I was born and raised in the Philippines. I am a Filipino. I am not a "halfer", nor "mestizo", nor anything other than a Filipino national who chose to reside in the US as an American citizen.*

Source.

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[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements. That's what rice has always meant to me, and as far as I know everyone around me. You can rice an American car and you can rice a German car just as much as you can rice a Japanese car.

I think this kind of linguistic prescriptivism is one of many things wrong with modern anti-racism movements. It's such a non-issue.

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[–] Vytle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this is blatantly incorrect? Rice is an acronym for "Racing inspired cosmetic enhancements"?

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh, I had only ever heard this term in the context of Linux desktop customization. Like in the context of superfluous over the top additions that look pretty but ultimately do not add anything to a system and may to some extent degrade performance.

I dont know why I never connected it with the car scene or with racist attitudes. I'm ashamed to say I think I've used the term myself once or twice. Thanks for sharing an explanation of the history of this evidently very racist term, I imagine there are others like myself who have failed to make that connection.

Idk why its so hard to just say "setup". I'm not sure that a use case this particular warrants its own terminology.

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[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you. I'm Asian and it is honestly a bit maddening when I get white-splained as to why the term isn't racist towards Asians.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago

I may be white, but I'm trans and get awful stuff said at/around me too, so I get it. Gotta have solidarity with other minorities and lift each other up! 💪

[–] schildfrosch@feddit.org 52 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Some people believe that labelling certain words as dirty because they have prejudicial or offensive connotations in a completely unrelated context is effective activism, passing judgement to feel like they're doing something.

One such word is "ricing". It comes from "rice burner", which is a pejorative term referring to East Asian cars and motorcycles. The modern usage has nothing to do with cars or ethnicity.

On a related note, the word "queer" has a similar history.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'd also like to point out that Queer has been reclaimed by Queer people. Whereas a bunch of, mostly white, Linux users have "reclaimed" it. But, in the context with my friend today, it was the car modification usage ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Soulg@ani.social 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Right so that offensive term is fine but this other offensive term is still super bad, actually.

I have absolutely no idea what anything in this post is about but it seems to me like a majority of people who use the term use it because that's what it was called when they were learning about... Whatever it is that it's referring to. Not because they're racist.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago

I'm a queer person, I get to use that term. As well, collectively, queer people have decided that it's a good umbrella term for our community. If someone decided to use it pejoratively, that still wouldn't be okay.

When referencing cars, it is being used as a pejorative though, so that seems pretty clear cut.

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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 45 points 2 days ago (30 children)

It started out as a pejorative (like a cheap car with cheap mods) but has become a positive term associated with customization and a respect for effort involved regardless of financial resources (sometimes cheaper being more impressive).

So uh... Nah I'm gonna keep saying that. You do you.

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[–] sickday@fedia.io 30 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I agree with the overall message here; there's definitely better words for customisation of a Window Manager/Desktop Environment.

I can't agree that everyone using that term is racist though. I doubt that everyone who uses it is doing so to discriminate or abuse another race. As proven by this thread, the history of that word isn't exactly common knowledge in the spaces people are using it.

"bigot" might be a better term to describe people that know the history of the word and actively refuse to change their ways. It feels like throwing "racist" on here where it doesn't exactly apply sort of dampens the impact of the word. But that's just me.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The people that now know the meaning, but are trying to argue that it doesn't matter, are no longer ignorant, and therefore don't have an excuse.

Another example of this is that I grew up with the term "gyped" meaning to have been taken advantage of when making a deal. When I learnt that it was a racist term that denigrates Romani/Traveller peoples, I stopped using it. If I'd continued too, then that would have made me racist :)

[–] sickday@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The people that now know the meaning, but are trying to argue that it doesn't matter, are no longer ignorant, and therefore don't have an excuse.

I agree, but you're meme implies that using the term at all makes you racist

The equivalent of this meme would be someone calling you a racist the very first time you ever used the term "gyped". You yourself stated you didn't know that term had racist history, so how could you have been racist?

It's a different situation when someone has knowledge of history and then goes on to use the term. That's textbook bigotry and I would agree that's also racsim, but you're casting a much wider net with this meme encompassing everyone who uses the term knowledgable or not

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago

You can be part of systemic racism and not know it. It still affects the other person even if you didn't intend it to.

We live in a society. It's not a personal failing if you were racist and didn't know it. But I think it is a responsibility to try and change for the better, just like in all aspects of life.

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[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But can I still call someone who rides that kind of motorcycle without proper safety gear an organ donor or is that insensitive?

Nah that's perfectly acceptable in my opinion. Another term that's great for that is squid, because all their appendages will be broken when they come off.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago

It’s a racist term, but a lot of people simply don’t know that. How I react depends on their general attitude.

[–] Robyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I appreciate the history lesson. I was always really confused by the term, but just accepted it as a silly random easy to remember word.

I’d prefer if it wasn’t hidden in the comments tho. Presenting it this way is very much inviting conflict, considering most people have no clue.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago

I didn't mean to hide it, I thought most would know the usage I was referencing. It seems like, even despite the explanations, people are wanting to argue it's not racist anymore anyway.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago (9 children)

What's your preferred term? "Linux desktop customization" is a bit of a mouthful.

[–] stray@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago

I'm new to this idea as of this thread, so maybe I'm not understanding the issue correctly, but:

  • mog
  • style
  • furbish
  • theme
  • vamp
  • spruce
  • look
  • snazz
  • attune
  • deck
  • alter
  • finify
  • spiff

I hope this list is at least helpful in generating ideas.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's the problem. People aren't going to stop using rice as a verb until some new term exists that's appropriately specific, and there is no alternative term I'm aware of.

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[–] Envy@fedia.io 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The irony of bitching about being racist while stealing AAVE amd then arguing its less racist is hilarious. I haven't used this term in ages but jesus if that aint some regressivist leftism i dont know what is.

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (13 children)

"Rice" as a food or plant, that's fine. "Rice" as a word for a group of people, not really

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Rest, Ice, Compress, Elevate.

[–] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Funnily enough the Finnish version of that mnemonic definitely sounds super racist:

Kylmä (cold)
Koho (form of "raise/rise")
Kompressio (probably obvious, I hope)

KKK (aka. the 3 K treatment)

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[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ricing is mucking with compilation flags on Gentoo for no observable gain or even detriment. If it extends to hideous cars of a certain manufacturing origin, I'm sorry for the cars' feelings, but it's not racist until cars start having a race.

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