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I have 2 GOP parents, one that voted Trump originally and one that did not. Over the last 9 years, I have watched them both travel down the MAGA pipeline to become visibly fascist. The parents who taught me racism was wrong and to have empathy for others, have become openly hostile about immigrants, Muslims, and even parrot the Nazi "great replacement" theory.

Part and parcel with this, they refuse to have any discussions about the facts -- like immigrants not stealing and eating people's pets. They won't hear it, they won't even engage in the conversation...they just get angry and loud the second they hear anything that doesn't fit into the Fox News narrative. Can you relate? How are you dealing with it in your relationships with your parents?

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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 days ago

My dad is awesome but my mom is scum. I told her to fuck off and stop talking to me but it wasn’t that hard cos she used to abuse me and didn’t raise me

[–] Leather@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I cut my Mom off. Dad was pretty deep in it too, he'd voted for Regan and Nixon, but he died before I couldn't take it anymore.

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Same, and I fucking hate it

[–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

You're better off asking them questions. "what makes a person eat someone else's pet?" or do simple definitions of what they say, as if you're trying to understand. "so white people deserve to travel and others don't?" (that's a stupid example, but all of the talking points boil down to these types of statements). Apparently getting them to debate facts doesn't work, getting them to question what they're blindly believing, does, but I haven't put it to practice. I want to go and get a refresher on critical thinking, so I can more easily break down, the way to properly ascertain if, what is being sold to you is truth or propaganda, and then make it into a question / statement and rather than addressing any topic, add a where did that come from, who sold you that, who profits from that, kinda thing, but I want a better statement / question than that. My parents are really similar, I have to avoid a lot of topics, I'm the black sheep of the family, I've always been much more earth conscious than them, it's gotten so much worse lately. It's the news they're being fed. They believe it, wholeheartedly. It's how they've always known what's happening. And it's why they're panic buying out tiktok, currently, they (those creating the propaganda and distributing it) can't have a narrative out there that doesn't align with their agenda.

[–] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

They think I hate them but I promise you it's shame. If we do talk, it's Dishonest Harmony.

[–] SuperEars@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

"Dishonest Harmony" is a term I've never heard but wow it is perfect.

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[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I deal with it pretty easily, I don’t have contact with them lol.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My parents are consuming more red media. This seems to happen in immigrant non-english circles.

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Fascist Propaganda plays super hard on the fears and nagging doubts that come with being an immigrant. The fears of deportation, imprisonment, or worse, not fitting in. The fear that everything is for nothing because someone is always poised to steal it out from under you. The fear that you are simply too weak to make it in the world, that there are things you don't understand and never will.

It's truly insidious.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 days ago
[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Ignore them and tell them trump is an idiot if you do talk to them and they bring it up. Watch them freak out.

Sorry, the brainwashing was too successful. You wont save them. They domt care that he raped children. They wont change their minds.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My parents are normal but I don't speak to any other relatives anymore.

[–] themoken@startrek.website 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, my parents are still basically the same liberal Democrats they were when I was a kid. Meanwhile I've gone farther left and the rest of the family mutated into a virulent strain of fascist.

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[–] School_Lunch@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This sounds very familiar. I don't often try to talk politics around my family anymore, but they still feel free to regurgitate whatever nonsense conservative news has riled them up about around me. Its way to annoying to ignore, so I try to set the record straight when they do that. It doesnt matter though. I've completely laid out all the details on a topic, and they just stare at me. When I try to get a response its usually along the lines of "I don't know about all that, but I'm not going to acknowledge that anything you said was right". Its like they have to go check fox news before they know how to respond. They just assume I'm wrong about everything before I even start talking. Its rich coming from people who are constantly misinformed, and by their own admission don't know much about any topic I've tried discussing. I'm on the verge of telling my dad "I want to think of you as a good person, but I'm running out of excuses for you".

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

got their numbers blocked and stopped checking FB because they are there. they kept trying to make me maga-like, i avoided saying anything mean, i have come to terms with just cocooning, just want to be left alone

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago

I wonder if maga people are having the exact same, conversation about there parents becoming leftists.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Before Trump, we’re get republican still? My parents were always super republican, but won’t vote for Trump. Also won’t vote for a democrat….

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