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submitted 1 year ago by Joe_0237@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I've observed a connection between lovers of computer languages, and lovers of human languages.

If you are interested in coding or linguistics, are you interested in both or just one of of the two? If only one interests you, which one and why? If both interest you, do they seem related to one another?

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

Do programming languages count? If so, I'm a polyglot.

[-] Joe_0237@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I myself am interested in both, I decided to specialize in programming, but did take a linguistics class back in highschool, in the class we constructed a fantasy language, and i still wave and occasionally update the documentation.

Coding languages and constructed human languages are bothan designed system of communication, its just that the targets are different. Coding languages (usually) unambiguously define a means of communicating structure and function, whereas human languages elvolve or are designed to communicate experience, something a lot more ... nebulous.

[-] ghashul@feddit.dk 1 points 1 year ago

I have an interest in both, but have mainly focused on human language. I speak Danish (and by extension a fair bit of Norwegian and Swedish and English, and some level of reading in German, Spanish and French, and have studied Latin, Greek, Hebrew and Akkadian academically.

I'm considering getting back into coding for a career change now, haven't really used it much since my teens. I used ASP, PHP and SQL.

I have a logic approach to both, I think, but they're also quite different.

[-] HorseFD@lemmy.buzz 1 points 1 year ago

That's interesting, they're two of my biggest interests. I wonder if this is true for a lot of other people.

[-] scottyjoe9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Yep this is me. I love learning languages and I'm a software dev for my job.

[-] thegiddystitcher@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I code in a few languages and I've always wanted to know more than one "human" language but efforts in that area have more or less consistently failed (exception being Esperanto because that's easy, but since hardly anyone speaks it it's not exactly useful).

Despite my interest in both I doubt there's much of a correlation when you look at programmers (or polyglots) as a group, though. For all we call all of these things "languages" there's a pretty big distinction and difference in complexity and approach between the computer and human ones, it's a whole different hobby.

I'd compare coding more to other hobbies that involve making things. I knit a jumper, I develop a video game...scratches same itch.

Or possibly problem-solving hobbies. I work out how to adjust a sewing pattern to fit, I solve a tricksy sudoku...again same itch.

[-] miikaroo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

For me it's both.

Language interest came from hearing my grandparents speak another language as a child, and coding from exploring early windows/dos and seeing what computers could do. Both are fueled by a curiosity and desire to know more so I'd say they're only loosely connected in that way.

[-] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I'm interested in programming language theory but not as much in linguistics. There is some interesting overlap though. I think I like PLT because it is prescriptive, unambiguous and clear; whereas linguistics is an attempt to describe natural language, but has areas that are ambiguous and less clear (invisible green dragons sleep furiously, for one). This impedence mismatch is probably why natural language processing is such a difficult problem in computer science and why we tend to rely on AI for it.

Chomsky's work in linguistics and grammars was incredibly important for computational parsing, be it source code or anything else. The Chomsky hierarchy (depicted and linked below) is important for developers writing parsers to know, because each category of grammar has different performance characteristics.

Chomsky hierarchy

[-] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

Chomsky's work was seminal both for linguistics (generative models) as well as formal language theory in computer science. I'm a software developer but I've a second degree in translation and I studied Chomsky in both cases 🤣🤣🤣

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