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[–] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I thought you give 1 from 7 to 9 so it becomes 10+6 !!

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

You can do that, too.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 141 points 5 days ago (10 children)

That's the sort of thing "new math" was trying to teach. Those sorts of breakdowns are exactly what the kids who were good at math were always doing, and teaching methods eventually caught up and realized they should just teach the tricks.

Then a bunch of parents who were bad at math asked "new math? How can math change?" The fact that they even asked that question showed how their math education was lacking, but they seem to have won.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

Exactly. Math has historically relied on rote memory for most mental math. Kids would have to fill out their times tables, addition tables, etc until they memorized them. I still remember getting pop quizzes in elementary school that looked like this:

You only had two minutes to fill out the entire thing, which meant you only had 1.2 seconds per answer. You didn’t have time to actually calculate them. The point was that you were expected to have them memorized ahead of time instead of calculating each one.

But rote memory is laughably bad at actually teaching concepts. You may know that 12x5 is 60, but you don’t have any understanding on why, or other ways to do that same calculation without rote memory. And rote memory is only decently reliable up to ~12x12. Anything past that, and it becomes too much info to track; kids simply start forgetting answers.

The kids who were good at math (and I mean actually good at math, not just good at memorizing things) quickly devised methods to do this shit in our heads easily. Keeping track of multiple numbers in your head gets confusing. So “line them all up, add straight down, and carry 1’s” sort of falls apart if you’re doing it in your head. Especially if you’re trying to keep track of more than three or four numbers at a time.

Essentially, 127+248+30 is the same as 105+250+50, but the latter is much easier to parse in your head. But yeah, the parents (who primarily relied on rote memory) didn’t understand why the new method would be more effective, because they didn’t understand the concepts surrounding the math.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I think it's good to have a good set of these tables memorized and then based off those you can bounce your tricks. Eg if you know 5x12 by heart, you get 5x24 by intuition. Or even if you know 24/2 for that matter. I use simple examples but this could scale to less memorable numbers too.

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[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I was trying to explain how and why they were teaching math to a family friend and they didn't get it(multiplication stuff). I broke it down with pen and paper and they didn't get it. Simpler example, nope. Eventually I had to explain how multiplication is just repetitive addition. They responded with WHAT! and I realized why they always wore open toed shoes. I sent them a link for 5th graders.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As a parent who is bad at math, you’re not wrong. But given my kids are excelling in math (very high scores), I’ve learned to shut the fuck up about it and let the teachers do their ~~black magic~~ jobs.

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[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why wouldn't you take the 1 from the 7 so it is 10+6?

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is what I go for...Just play in 10s. Alot easier IMO

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

NOT LIKE THAT YOU HEATHEN

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

A dozen years ago or so there was a huge uproar about "common core" mathematics, which was a new standard being used in the USA for teaching.

It was a politicized trendy topic and even so-called-intellectuals were jumping on the train and calling it a deranged way of learning math.

I looked into it a bit, and I swear this pic pretty much sums up one of the key methods they were teaching.

Basically just tricks that a lot of people figure out to simplify problems.

[–] tlmcleod@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

That's exactly what it is. A way to help conceptualize and play with numbers. Stuff my bored ass was doing in school anyway before common core came around lol

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Common core is still a thing. I wish I had common core as a kid. Makes way more sense.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No take one from 7 and its 10+6=16

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Take 7 from 7 and its 16+0 =16

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Take 11 from 7 and it is 20-4=16

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[–] NewPerspective@lemmy.world 68 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Borrow 1 from the 7 leaving you 10 and 6. This is what they tried to teach in schools for awhile but adults weren't getting it. Common Core? Is that what they called it?

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As someone who learned not via Common Core, and then found out Common Core taught math how I taught myself to do mental math I was a little envious that kids would learn my “easier” method.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Same, common core is what I came up with to do mental math.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 14 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Yup, helping my kiddo with the math portion of Common Core was like seeing professionals finally understanding how easy it is to sort numbers to make stuff easier instead of doing a bunch of rote memorization of tables. Also teaching kids to estimate to know if your math is way off!

Common Core for math was awesome. That was the only one I had to help with so no idea about the rest.

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[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

One of my wifes friends was an elemetry school teacher when common core was popular. We asked her what it was and as she was explaining it, i said, "oh, like how you do mental math?"

Im an engineer and i just assumed thats how everyone did math... apparently people just memorized everything

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[–] Ashenlux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Why wouldn't you just take 1 from 7, add it to 9, and make it 10 + 6? That makes a lot more sense to my brain at least.

[–] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He's a spider monkey with base 8 fingers.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because making shit equal, be in perfect balance or even symmetric makes my dopamine go 🥳.

Finding the correct answer that way is a neat side effect too.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

9 is one less than 10, and 7 is three less than 10, so combined, they're four less than 20 = 16

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

not even ADHD related you're just taking a route to something more readily available in your memory. that's how brains are supposed to work.

to me the detour is -1+10. whenever i see a 9 i take 1 away from the other guy and then add 10.

9 x single digit mumber works similarly; except i take away 1 and complete that to 9 by adding a number next to it.

9x7 = ?

7-1 = 6

6+? = 9

9x7 = 63

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[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is all incorrect because 7 would inevitably cannibalize 9.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

10 + 7 = 17 17- 1 = 16

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago

I mean, sure, the choice of the "nice" numbers here is eccentric, but this is essentially the way math is taught nowadays. Only, instead of making 8 in this special case, the goal is usually to make 10 + leftovers because adding to 10 is always easy.

Here's my (upper midwest) spicy mental math take: it should be big-endian and solved with backtracking for ripple carry/borrow. None of this starting-from-the-1's-place-and-successively-incorporating-higher-order-digits nonsense. Extended carry/borrow is rare, and if you start with the most significant digits and give up/get bored part way through, the intermediate answer is in the ballpark of the real answer.

[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 3 points 3 days ago

The legend said that it is how Gaussian elimination was discovered in europe

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 37 points 5 days ago (2 children)

9+anything
10+x-1

Similarly for 8+x is 10+x-2

Multiplying by 5: mult by 10 divide by 2 Mult by 15: mult by 10, add half of that.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

This is literally how common core math works.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You’re so adhd you forgot that this was a whole part of your math curriculum that you just tuned out because you already knew it.

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[–] wfh@piefed.zip 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Heretic here. I just do 10 + 7 - 1.

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The answer is 69
420% of the time.

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[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

And here I always thought it was 1001 + 0111 = 10000.

[–] futurefossil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Idk I have adhd and my working memory is so poor that memorizing time tables was the only way. :/

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 days ago (5 children)

My maths teachers encouraged that kinda calculations tbh... Makes sense why I like maths

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Said by someone who never actually told that to a teacher, lol.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

OPs description is literally the simplest example of the dreaded "new math" they are teaching in schools.

9+7 is the same as 9+1+6 is the same as 10+6 is 16. New math. Same as the old math.

ETA: one of the points of "new math", iirc, is essentially to teach all kids to use the methods that the kids who are "naturally gifted" at arithmetic sort of figured out on their own. So, congrats?

It's less about "changing the way we do math" and more about "teaching kids to break down problems to their simplest elements"...which is an all-around important life skill, aside from just math.

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[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

This way of thinking is just a different way of doing math and has absolutely nothing to do with ADHD. This type of post is likely responsible for a large portion of the people self diagnosing themselves with something that I struggle with.

Stop posting this shit.

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