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[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

Late licences (to 5am in Scotland) are the main reason I fled Edinburgh's Old Town for the suburbs. No fun having your front door used as a toilet, drunks ranting and fighting in the close at 3am, having to dodge "pavement pizzas" every night. Yay, growth!

[–] l_isqof@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

How will a few drunkards hit up the economy, when most people struggle to buy their second round?

Also, how are you going to help the economy if you're staying out until 1am, when you should be going to work the next day hungover?

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

Honestly, I support this.

Pubs are constantly getting squeezed out by competition from supermarkets and whilst I'm not a big drinker or even a regular at a pub, it's a part of British culture that should be preserved.

HOWEVER, if we're talking about legal reforms to preserve pub culture, there's many other issues that need addressing.

Examples include: Brewery-owned pubs being one of the worst types of franchise business for squeezing "owners" out of every last penny and having a ridiculous amount of control on how the pub is run even if the Landlord/lady has other ideas about how it should be run.

The power of brewerys over the pubs they control needs to be weakened.

It's fairly easy to convert a pub into a single residencey and little to no planning permission is required. It's impossible to return a former pub back to being a pub even if the community consents. Given that pub is short for "Public House" when more of these were vital parts of the community, said community should have first right-to-buy dibs to keep it going for the community.

Freehouses should have lower rates and brewerys should not be allowed to pressure freehouses into dropping that status in exchange for not paying exorbitant prices for produce.

Weatherspoons and StoneGate need to be broken up and the Franchise model needs replacing with a Cooperative model.

And as a last example, repealing the ban on gambling games and replacing it with more sensible regulation. E.g. games cannot allow the house to take a cut of winnings, must be organised by a regular patron, limited to a single night of the week, with a simple one page from registering with the gambling association so the appropriate authorities are aware, and a limit on the monetary value per round.

That last one is two fold:

  1. Small friendly bets on card games in pubs is less likely to drain gambling-prone people's income than a betting shop and comes with an inbuilt support network.

  2. Smaller "don't-take-the-piss" events and clubs with a light touch of regulation is much better for keeping the peace and not causing social problems than letting large corporate betting shops swallow the high street whole along with desperate and addicted people's money to a tax haven.

[–] Apocalypteroid@feddit.uk 12 points 12 hours ago

While at the same time we're banning fizzy drink refills....? Make it make sense!

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 3 points 11 hours ago

Can’t they just reduce the tax on drinking in a pub so they can take more profit from what’s spent? Most alcoholics drink at home now anyway.

[–] WitchOfScots@feddit.uk 2 points 10 hours ago
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 12 hours ago

Feeding the prison industrial complex

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 12 hours ago

Because we all know how much more efficient you work when hungover and still a little drunk ...