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[–] protist@mander.xyz 31 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Counterpoint:

Your 14 year old daughter sneaking out of the house at night to have sex with a 67 year old man who is awaiting trial and on $50K bond for felony sexual assault against your daughter indicates a dramatic series of parenting missteps, and you shouldn't be trusted to run a sheriff's office.

[–] rowdy@piefed.social 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What a momentously insensitive leap. I hope that if you have children, they are never groomed by the boyfriend of a family friend so you don’t have to eat your own words.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I have a child, and they're not spending time alone with boyfriends of family friends.

[–] rowdy@piefed.social 20 points 6 days ago

I’m not sure you understand what grooming is.

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

I'm pretty sure at 14 I was able to do many stupid things my parents didn't know about or couldn't stop.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

And how old is that child? If they're in their teens and you can guarantee you know everything they are up too, well, let's just say your child will resent the hell out of you one day.

My daughter's 12, lives with her mom, and is just now starting to turn against her iron grip.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I lost my virginity to a 14-yo who snuck over to my house. She had nice, reasonable, responsible, fairly rich parents. They had no clue.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago

Were you 67 at the time?

[–] stoly@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago

Only if you can't read

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The idea of electing sheriffs is just colossally stupid.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Why? It makes way more sense than having it be an appointed position that's not accountable to voters directly.

Also, the sheriff is really just the manager of the deputies. So you're directly electing the manager of the people enforcing the laws against you.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Having an armed elected official that can start criminal investigations/parallel construction into any one challenging them in an election is a shit idea is why.

Them running an election campaign while solving crime is a shit idea. Having to create election donation rules around the conflict of interest to donating to a sheriff's campaign or not or only rich can run a campaign et cetera is group of shite ideas.

Because LEO should not be in representative government.

They should be appointed by the county council to a term of four years. They should be easily removed because do we or don't we believe in public sovereignty and sheriffs usually bend to kings rather than a republic.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago

I actually think the underlying issue is that the voters are as dumb as a box of hammers at this point.

There certainly is a problem that happens in American when people elect sheriffs who are totally incompetent, or partisan and corrupt, or just like this guy seem like they might be motivated more by thirst for vengeance against the allegedly-guilty than they are by trying to make the world a better place. But I actually think the real issue is that people see a couple of campaign commercials or articles like that, and see how well their emotional manipulation lines up with that person's particular emotional stereotypes, and that is literally as far as it goes in terms of deciding who they pick to shape and mold the world they live in.

That's why we have Trump, that's how we got Mitch McConnell, that's how we got the DNC who kneecapped Bernie Sanders. If people were informed and then actively engaged in shaping the government that rules over them day to day, then electing sheriffs would be fine (actually probably better than having the old boy's club pick them). How we get from here to there, however, I have no real idea...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Have you seen what voters have been voting for lately?

Should we also have people directly vote for the head of the EPA?

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sounds like you're getting close to suggesting we shouldn't be voting for who runs the executive branch of the federal government either.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Just like the founding fathers intended.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Oh yeah? Please, continue to explain to me what I believe.

I don't think we should have votes for positions that should be appointed by the people we do vote for.

It's really not hard to understand.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

continue to explain

When did I start?

[–] remon@ani.social 9 points 6 days ago

“I’m the father who acted to protect his father when the system failed,” Spencer says in the video.

Wait, what happened to his father?

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

The judge and the jury will always be there, when he sets up the new system. And the executioner.