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    [–] adidev@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

    I heart there is Wikipedia on ipfs. Is that a good solution for Linux packages too?

    [–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 167 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

    For wikipedia you'll want to use Kiwix. A full backup of wikipedia is only like 100GB, and I think that includes pictures too.

    [–] clif@lemmy.world 32 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (4 children)

    Last time I updated it was closer to 120GB but if you're not sweating 100 GB then an extra 20 isn't going to bother anyone these days.

    Also, thanks for reminding me that I need to check my dates and update.

    EDIT: you can also easily configure a SBC like a Raspberry Pi (or any of the clones) that will boot, set the Wi-Fi to access point mode, and serve kiwix as a website that anyone (on the local AP wifi network) can connect to and query... And it'll run off a USB battery pack. I have one kicking around the house somewhere

    [–] techwithjake@sh.itjust.works 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    Just built one of those using Dietpi as the OS and NVME M.2 for the storage. I have many different ZIMs and running different services and only using about 270GB.

    Works great for offline use. Probably should add an ISO or 2 as well.

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    [–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 29 points 20 hours ago

    Yeah also if you make a Zim wiki or convert a website into Zim then you can run that stuff too. If you use Emacs it's easy to convert some pages to wikitext for Zim too

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    [–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    On prem NAS or SAN… you should have built it 3 years ago.

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    [–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

    we need all repos to be stored offline, and documentations to troubleshoot.

    the 1st i have no idea how much space we will need. Most linux packages are prerry light, no? But there is A LOT of them...

    the 2nd is easy. Heard someone say the entire of wikipedia is 200GB, should be doable. Dont forget the technical wikis too: Debian, Gentoo, Arch.

    [–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

    The official USBs of Trixie fit all 28 DVDs of AMD64 on a 256GiB USB stick

    https://www.linuxcollections.com/products/debian/debianusb.htm?id=51007

    You'd probably want the 512GiB with all the sources for a real backup in this scenario

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    [–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

    I kind of want that hackermans diy pc that runs on 18650 cells

    [–] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 47 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

    I stumbled across this sort of fascinating area of doomsday prepping a few weeks back.

    https://prepperpress.com/usb/

    A nice addition to that, don't just make it a USB, but a raspberry pi. So you'd have a reasonably low-powered computer you could easily take with you.

    Not suggesting this one as it seems a bit expensive to me, but https://www.prepperdisk.com/products/prepper-disk-premium-over-512gb-of-survival-content?view=sl-8978CA41

    [–] techwithjake@sh.itjust.works 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (7 children)

    Just built one of these myself. I went NVME M.2 instead of SD Card to avoid data corruption. I know SD Cards are fine if you don't write to them a lot but if you wanna update or add your own stuff, scares me. Plus NVME is just so much faster.

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    [–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 102 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

    The English Language Wikipedia probably wouldn't be hard, or Debian Stable.

    All of Debian's packages might be a tad more expensive, though.

    [–] dephyre@lemmy.world 46 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 24 points 20 hours ago

    And the english with no pictures is even smaller

    And you can use Kiwix to setup a locally hosted wikipedia using the data dumps

    [–] notabot@piefed.social 25 points 20 hours ago

    It depends if you want the images or previous versions of wikipedia too. The current version is about 25Gb compressed, the dump with all versions is aparently multiple terabytes. They don't say how much media they have, but I'm guessing it's roughly "lots".

    [–] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    Wait, isn't there an offline copy of a part of Wikipedia? The article Just by yourself a nice printer with enough ink and do it yourself ;)

    [–] 18107@aussie.zone 11 points 15 hours ago

    It could cost a bit if you wanted to keep it up to date.

    https://what-if.xkcd.com/59/

    [–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 28 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

    Yeah not gonna lie, i think i heard someone in a youtube video a while back talk about how the entirety of wikipedia takes up like 200 gigs or something like that, and it got me seriously considering to actually make that offline backup. Shit is scary when countries like the uk are basically blocking you from having easy access to knowledge.

    [–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 42 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

    Curious about the mindset of the one (so far) person who has downvoted this post. What is there to dislike about archiving Linux and Wikipedia? πŸ€”

    [–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 74 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    They are probably using a phone app which allows you to swipe sideways to downvote and also using screen gestures to 'go back'. I've accidentally downvoted things this way.

    [–] Lupo@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

    I accidentally downvoted this comment

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    [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 13 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

    They firmly believe that: Real men don't do backup, they cry instead.

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    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 48 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

    How would one go about making an offline copy of the repos? Asking for a friend.

    [–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    I downloaded wikipedia a month or two ago, I recommend it.

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    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 14 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

    I keep a wiki copy as well as Reddit pre-fuckuspez. A Debian archive copy sounds like a good idea.

    [–] Souroak@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    I'm also curious about the reddit archive. Did you copy it yourself or is this available somewhere?

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago

    I got it from Archive.org. There was a monthly dump. I can't easily find it but that's where I got it from.

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    [–] jstin86457@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

    Sorry, I'm out of the loop. Is there something particular that triggered this that I missed?

    [–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 37 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

    gestures broadly

    [–] Taldan@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

    The broad censorship of government data in the US, combined with the recent political attacks on Wikipedia caused me to download the whole English Wikipedia earlier this year. Guessing OP is similar

    Not sure why they'd download Debian with all packages though

    Edit: I should mention it's less about a potential loss of Wikipedia as it is a personal source of truth on politically sensitive topics that get censored, or turned to propaganda by bots

    For example the Wounded Knee Massacre. Pete Hegseth has recently been calling it the, "Battle of Wounded Knee". I wouldn't be surprised if the current administration went to war with Wikipedia and forced them to 1) Change articles they disagree with, and 2) Hide those changes from history

    [–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 6 points 14 hours ago

    My rationale with Debian is that distros are kind of like portals to entire compendiums of free and open-source software. With the increasing attacks on vpns in particular right now, I'm concerned there are any number of programs we take for granted that we might not have access to soon.

    The internet is already deeply enshittified. There is a real possibility that it will no longer be a free and open web in any capacity soon. So it's past time to make archives, and start setting up meshnets.

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