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How did this post turn into a dumb discussion about NSFW and Graham Platner, it's beyond me, I was old enough to remember, and for the youngsters who may think it's AI, this is not even the half of it, this was on TV news and in all the major newspapers around the world
When it's US atrocities
But when talking about its enemies
This is basic US conditioning.
Deceptichum is being a counterproductive dick in the comments, but this picture is not gore or even technically NSFW. The prisoner on the floor is not dead and no nudity is visible. This is an image from the US prison in Abu Ghraib during the Iraq War. The US committed many war crimes there. Some of the other images from Abu Ghraib are fully NSFW. You should still look it up and learn that history.
Man, seeing the American torturers happy, smiling as they pose with their victims is horrifying. I can understand if they felt it was necessary, but they clearly take joy in torturing people. That's so fucked up. The torturers deserve life in prison
The torturers are only a symptom of America.
Yes because bad people are unique to america
This is just "bad people" for you tells us everything we need to know.
If it's the kind of thing that could trigger someone then it's common courtesy to mark it NSFW when posting publicly. It's the same as content warnings on media.
Yet it fell wrong. I understand if people want to tag it nsfw based on feelings.
Why TF isn't this marked NSFW?
She's at work
Make sure you vote for your favorite Blackwater mercenary Graham Platner:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisour_Square_massacre
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-dark-truth-about-blackwater/
https://www.ilawjournals.com/blackwater-the-major-crimes-of-the-most-famous-american-pmcs/
A proud 6-times participant of Iraq and afganistan invasions, and industrial military puppet and war criminal to become your next US senate representing the DNC!
More detailed comment about his participation in war crimes:
Let’s start with some honesty. The links in that post, the Wikipedia page on the Nisour Square massacre , the Brookings article , and the ILawJournals piece , have nothing to do with Graham Platner. They are about the crimes committed by Blackwater contractors in 2007. Dragging Platner’s name into that is misleading and irresponsible.
If you actually check reliable sources, here is what they say. Platner served in Iraq as a United States Marine, not as a private contractor. That is an important distinction. Years after leaving the Marines, he worked a short-term security contract in 2018 with Constellis, the company that absorbed what was left of Blackwater. The contract was for the State Department in Kabul, Afghanistan, not Iraq. The New Yorker notes that he served near Abu Ghraib years earlier but was not involved in any of the abuses that happened there. The GQ profile and The American Prospect both report the same thing: Marine service, later contractor work, and no evidence of wrongdoing.
I understand not liking the military industrial complex. I do not either. I have seen how it chews people up and spits them out while companies make millions. But there is a big difference between criticizing that system and accusing an individual of war crimes he did not commit. That kind of careless attack does not expose corruption. It only spreads misinformation and damages a person’s reputation.
If we want to have serious conversations about private military contractors and America’s foreign policy failures, then let us have them. But let us do it honestly. Graham Platner did not shoot civilians in Baghdad, and pretending he did only weakens whatever moral argument you are trying to make.
It's also part of a much larger trend where we tend to blame as many problems on as few individuals as possible. Sure, it simplifies the story in our heads, but it also allows massive corporations who ARE responsible for wrongdoings get away with blaming whoever happens to be sitting at the top seat. And ~~when~~ IF they even get punished at all, it's usually so light that they don't even notice and before long they're the head of another company anyway so its as if it never happened
NO! THIS IS COPY PASTE FROM WIKIPEDKIA WITH SOURCES:
"He attended the Marine Corps School of Infantry, then deployed to Iraq in 2005.[2] He served eight years in the military, including three combat tours in Iraq, in areas including Ramadi and Fallujah.[9] "
You ARE either LYING or an idiot who can't read! You provided wrong information in your comment. His wikipedia lists his service and employments under THREE SEPARATE DEPLOYMENTS from 2005 until 2007 in Iraq IN FUCKING Ramadi and Fallujah., Just google it and you get the 2004 massacre, then again: Google: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massacre
THEN IN 2005 HE DECIDED TO JOIN the same people responsible for those atrocities??
THEN AGAIN: Just google "Blackwater Ramadi" and you get : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_occupation_of_Ramadi
Haifa Street helicopter incident (2005) Tal Afar shootings (2005) Basra prison incident (2005) Haditha massacre (2005) Mahmudiyah rape and killings (2006) Ishaqi massacre (2006) Baghdad detainee killings (2006) Hamdania incident (2006) Iraqi bodyguard killing (2006) Iron Triangle Murders (2006) Baghdad airstrike (2007) Nisour Square massacre (2007)
All those above are his blood money and the career he is proud that he facilitated.
Then again in 2010, by this time Iraq-war vets were killing themselves left and right from their ptsds and crimes they participated in. He does what? He joins the SAME FUCKING CONTRACTOR: Blackwater: "Constellis: A military-contractor company that evolved from Blackwater under the same founders , AGAIN IN 2010 , AND AGAIN IN 2018 in Afganistan!
SOOO I stand with my 4 arguments against this war criminal, and I will re-read his wikipedia with you later with more evidence:
1- He needs to return his blood money to the victims which he at least facilitated, or as the evidence below suggests participated in their massacre.
2- He needs to whistle blow the war crimes which he at least witnessed, or as the evidence below suggests committed himself.
3- Fool me once, twice, thrice, four times... shame on me, but five times re-enrolling under the same ill-trained war-criminal military contractor that has been convicted of the most horrible terrorist acts from 2005 year after year until 2018? You have to have a hole in your brain to believe this guy would not lie for a position of power, or believe this war criminal has any conscious left after seeing so many dead brown people, or guilt about his participation with them.
4- His nazi tattoos, his racist (black people/brown people) comments, his sexual assault charges, his repeated participation with war-criminal employer for over 13 years of shame military invasions, and his pride in participating TO THIS FUCKING DAY means that he shows no remorse, no rehabilitation, no guilt, and no shame in all his history.
Now open his wiki page, and let's talk. He was a rifle-team leader, and all his service time were in COMPACT tours under blackwater mercenary year 2005 until 2007 in Al-Anbar and Ramadi province, and guess who was the military contractor convicted of unprovoked shootings and indiscriminate killing of civilians in these dates and areas specifically? Yes it was his buddies that he is still proud about helping until this day.
Then after the conviction of 14+ blackwater mercencaries in 2014-2015 , (and btw, you have to know the level of depravity those fuckers scooped down for the US military to convict them of war crimes in Iraq:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings
They tortured to death and took turns raping 14 yr-old girls until they killed themselves. Those were his buddies that he is so proud of serving under until this day.)
Guess where did he enroll next in 2010, and years later after his age and conscious sat in (when so many others of his peers with conscious chose to kill themselves to free their conscious from their ptds), in 2018 he went to sign up for who again? None other than Blackwater! Constellis, is a company that evolved from Blackwater under the same founders.. Why are you whitewashing his later Constellis employments as if it was any different?
Now you want me to believe his history and ongoing feelings and pride about it, or believe his reddit comments? ... I get you you thinking he is a socialist, and so we thought was Obama, who is a war criminal who killed and bombed more people than any president in the US. I don't want to change the subject to Obama's war crimes, but you seem to be someone who missed that class.
In 2020, all four convicted were pardoned by President Donald Trump.
Fucking wat
In October, various news outlets reported on past Reddit posts by Platner between 2013 and 2021 in which he called himself a "communist", declared that "all" cops are "bastards", and agreed with a post describing White people as "racist and stupid". In a 2013 Reddit discussion about anti-rape underwear, Platner commented that people worried about assault should "take some responsibility for themselves and not get so fucked up they wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to". He also referenced political violence in multiple posts; in 2018, he wrote: "Fight until you get tired of fighting with words and then fight with signs, and fists, and guns if need be." Platner also said that "an armed working class is a requirement for economic justice" and urged readers to "Get Armed, Get Organized. The Other Side Sure As Hell Is."
Slightly based ngl (well the rape take is pretty terrible).
I'd take him over another crypt keeper any day. Establishment Dems are fascists just like Republicans.
Let’s start with some honesty. The links in that post, the Wikipedia page on the Nisour Square massacre , the Brookings article , and the ILawJournals piece , have nothing to do with Graham Platner. They are about the crimes committed by Blackwater contractors in 2007. Dragging Platner’s name into that is misleading and irresponsible.
If you actually check reliable sources, here is what they say. Platner served in Iraq as a United States Marine, not as a private contractor. That is an important distinction. Years after leaving the Marines, he worked a short-term security contract in 2018 with Constellis, the company that absorbed what was left of Blackwater. The contract was for the State Department in Kabul, Afghanistan, not Iraq. The New Yorker notes that he served near Abu Ghraib years earlier but was not involved in any of the abuses that happened there. The GQ profile and The American Prospect both report the same thing: Marine service, later contractor work, and no evidence of wrongdoing.
I understand not liking the military industrial complex. I do not either. I have seen how it chews people up and spits them out while companies make millions. But there is a big difference between criticizing that system and accusing an individual of war crimes he did not commit. That kind of careless attack does not expose corruption. It only spreads misinformation and damages a person’s reputation.
If we want to have serious conversations about private military contractors and America’s foreign policy failures, then let us have them. But let us do it honestly. Graham Platner did not shoot civilians in Baghdad, and pretending he did only weakens whatever moral argument you are trying to make.
This person is either unwilling or incapable of engaging with reality on a good faith basis.
That dude is unhinged as fuck. They don't seem to know the difference between being a Marine for 8 years and being in Blackwater. I leaned a long time ago that arguing with a nut is they same as wrestling a pig. You both get covered in shit but only the pig loves it.
Stop spamming gore.
I'm not, I'm sharing important historical photos to highlight American Crimes Against Humanity.
Now please go bury your head elsewhere, this is not the place for your bullshit.
Please provide the relevant context for the image and tag it as NSFW then. Seems like a pretty common courtesy.
I have no desire to censor and hide this, that would defeat the whole purpose of confronting Americans with pre-Trump America.
Fuck it, I'll bite. What about post-trump?
Would it not be better to focus on the horrors of today?
These are the horrors of today, they have not ended.
Before, during, or after Trump innocent people across the world are suffering because of American evils.
I’m not subscribed to this community, and you haven’t applied any NSFW tags; this is on the home page. I don’t want to scroll past dead bodies at 6am.
I’m not burying my head in anything; I just don’t want to see this shit.
Tag your content appropriately, and watch your tone.
No-one in the photo is dead.
There were in some other photos, which should be appropriately marked now.
I was referring to the streak of several photos OP was posting in quick succession to the same community, not that specific one.
Ok thanks, I didn't see the others at all.
And I don't want to have to listen to Americans defend this and talk about how badly they want to go back to it every day.
We don't always get what we want, luckily for you your solution is as easy as blocking one community on your end.
Edit: You ended up getting your wish.
Are you hearing americans defending this and saying how bad they want to go back to it on lemmy...?
According to Deceptichum, Deceptichum is saying that before Reagan, America was perfect!
https://quokk.au/c/historymemes@piefed.social/p/365088/ronnie-raygun
What a Nazi! /s
Yes, all the time I hear Americans go on about how they must defeat Trump and make things good again.
share more context on the photos please or it's easy to dismiss them as AI generated
These are extensively well documented historical incidences, but sure I'll add some more information.
I recommend blocking this community.