About a year ago I saw billboards saying something like "the only bad thing about investing in Ukraine is not doing it right now" plastered all over my local provincial mall. I'm no advertising professional but I don't suspect random that random Danish shoppers are a very effective demographic for an investment campaign. Either they're desperate, they're massive grifters who are burning as much money as possible before the inevitable downfall or some combination of the two.

The Western media conveniently leaves out Ukraine shelling the Donbass over the last several years

Interestingly enough look on lemmy world news, libs there were like "Russia genocides Ukrainians by the millions" for two years, and now they are "30 killed in biggest attack in the war".

I'd point out Ukraine already kills Russian civilians. Already conducts terrorist attacks and feels fully justified in doing so because they are blood-thirsty, monstrous fascists being pushed to do something for the even stronger fascists their US masters. You have liberals in the US calling all Russians orcs, celebrating Russian tourists being killed in shark attacks. Ukraine is already fully unhinged, fully committed to terror tactics and will grow so even more so as their conventional forces fail and evaporate as the US demands punishment on Russian bodies and they don't give a fuck if those bodies are civilians or not. The propaganda for dehumanizing Russians has already reached its zenith, it can't go higher. They've staged false flag massacres, claimed all kinds of atrocities committed by Russians in areas they briefly occupied, and the western imagination does the rest.

More propaganda is not needed. If civilians were not incidentally killed, they would stage fake massacres as in 'Bucha' (sp?) or wherever that was. It's in other words irrelevant to propaganda.

they didn't need propaganda to shell people in donbass for 8 years

More than 26 civilians are murdered every day in Gaza (actually around 300) and Biden just went around congress to give Israel more weapons.

Hence "muh white people!" It's all about the color of the victim's skin.

Stop spewing liberal propaganda. You'd think people here would know better by now. There is no evidence Russia deliberately targeted civilians.

We know from the past that Ukrainians deliberately park military assets near civilian infrastructure like schools, malls, etc so even if the maternity center and kindergarten aren't lies it's very likely they were hit incidentally after the Ukro-nazis used them as shields with the deliberate intent of making sure Russians killed civilians so they could sob about it.

The whole war is a bad thing. Fascists seizing power in 2014 is a bad thing, the break-up of the Soviet Union was a bad thing, etc.

But I'd like to point out that with Ukraine's "fall of Berlin" level of mass conscription, Russian soldiers firing on Ukrainian soldiers is killing people who were only recently civilians and didn't choose to be on the front lines but were kidnapped and put there with Neo-Nazi blocking units (and US supplied intelligence and overwatch) preventing them from fleeing their posts. And these are people who have for months, a year been prevented from fleeing the conflict zone by their own government desperate to keep canon fodder around by shutting the borders, thus placing them in danger. Obviously you probably wouldn't say that's as wrong as civilians being incidentally killed in missile strikes but both were chosen by the Ukrainians not the Russians who desperately, with all their might and vigor tried to find peace out of this even if it meant not getting all their goals repeatedly but were rejected in favor of being bled in an attempt to destroy and humiliate Russia and its people.

The blood of any dead Ukrainian civilians (including those pressed into uniform for use as canon fodder) is not the fault of Russia but of the US and the fascist puppet leadership in Kiev and I will continually point this out and scream about this mischaracterization which is in fact regurgitating western propaganda. The blood is entirely on their not Russian hands. In a strategy where the flailing puppet regime is demanded by it's American masters to fight to the last Ukrainian it's an unusual situation.

I feel badly for the Russian soldiers who've died and I feel badly for the Ukrainian conscripts (to a lesser degree given they watched fascism rise and did nothing or abetted it), but this happens in war against these types. A war Russia did not choose. A war they gave multiple off-ramps to. A defensive war against imperialist aggression and encroachment by swastika and SS symbol sporting fascists as the tip of the NATO spear aimed at Russia's belly.

We laugh at USA FUCKING EMBASSY writing this hypocrisy fest when their multiple wars are just mass murder shock and awe indiscrimiate bombings complete with double-tapping rescuers as if they wanted the world to see how evil they are.

I think ... maybe...

Civilians injured in Ukraine gets the US Ambassador to say, "Hey, support Ukraine!"

Civilians injured in the Palestinian territories but there are no US Ambassador's tweeting, 'Hey support Palestine!"

Russia targets civilians

If Russia was targeting civilians there would be a lot more civilian casualties. Russia fired over a hundred missiles and who knows how many more drones, and even according to the numbers put out by the Ukrainian authorities which are highly untrustworthy they have killed less than "Israel" does with a single bomb. And it's not because Russia is bad at killing, it's because unlike the Ziofash they are not trying to mass murder civilians

Just a cursory glance at the total civilian casualties over the course of this entire conflict shows that Russia has gone out of its way to avoid harming civilians whenever possible. In no other modern conflict has the ratio of civilian to military casualties been this low. This is just an objective fact, look it up. And a hell of a lot of those civilian casualties have been people in the Russian annexed territories, in frontline cities which are still being regularly shelled by Ukraine, most of the time for no apparent reason other than to terrorize the population.

ur reaction [...] Is to laugh at it

Nobody here is laughing, this entire war is a tragedy that didn't need to happen. These civilian casualties are also highly tragic, all the more so since many of them are likely due to Ukrainian AD missiles missing and hitting residential areas. We have had ample video of such misfires in the past, but none of actual Russian strikes being purposely aimed at civilian targets except on the very rare occasion when there was undeniable evidence of concentration of high value military assets there.

And before any dumbass even tries to draw some asinine and morally bankrupt comparison to what is happening in Gaza, may i remind you that Ukraine's territory is over ten thousand times the size of Gaza. They have plenty of empty fields and forests to park their equipment in - they don't need to be putting their military assets inside cities right next to or sometimes inside civilian objects! For the Kiev regime that is a choice; a deliberate one.

What the Zionist propagandists falsely accuse Hamas of doing is what the AFU is actually doing: using human shields and then cynically using their deaths regardless which side was responsible for them for propaganda purposes.

I am not saying Ukrainian should die but it's the audacity of a US ambassador to post about Ukraine and not Gaza

"Ur"

Y u do dis?

21 Russian civilians killed from just 1 Ukraine attack in Belgorod after this. You can draw the comparisons to the results 158 missiles Russia did.