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Google search failed to even find a hollywood movie, even after 1 hour of attempts. I don't really care about the movie, but I am terrified by the prospect that google now ceased to function on this basic level. Why is this happening?

I understand the explanations of seo and other stuff like spam content. But why are there NO relevant results at all.

I wouldn't mind having to start wading through results at page 2 or even 10 but now it utterly fails to find even the most basic things.

Things you found on the first attempt even just a year ago. Now they are effectively hidden.

To me functionally the entire internet has now vanished. I cannot access anything that I am searching for. Might as well not exist at all.

Has anybody found a way around this?

Is this on purpose? Is this an attack on the free internet, herding people to just the top 5 sites like facebook, youtube, tiktok, and so forth?

Are there search engines that still work?

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[-] ConstipatedWatson@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I'm late to the party and I don't understand several things I read in the comments, so I need to ask for clarification.

What is Google's Search Engine Optimization (SEO)? I looked it up, but the websites StartPage was giving me were not useful (probably ads or spam sites). Is finding these ads/spam sites the problem?

How is this a search engine's fault? I mean, if the internet is now made by walled gardens and spam sites, search engines have trouble finding something really relevant, but how is it their fault?

I should add I navigate logged out on Firefox with the Ublock Origin and NoScript extensions (among others) so I at least don't see Google's ads.

I agree there are some searches where it's next to impossible to find informed sites from spam ones: just a week ago I was looking for "Best Nintendo Switch games released in 2023" and I got lots of dubious blogs, and even when I got hits from IGN, GameSpot or PcMag sites, I realized I don't know if any of these last sites are genuine or bought out (and checked the Wikipedia for more wisdom about their veracity), but how is it the search engine's fault to not navigate through seas of crap?

When I search for academic things, Google or StartPage still seem to give me useful answers.

I have been wary about searches related to reviews about anything, but it just seemed to me the internet is a worse place now in general (because of walled gardens and spam)

[-] woefkardoes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The search engine makes the rules for what they deem important in finding the correct results. SEO is the practice of optimising of a web site to best get your site on the top of the list. All the painful stories about grandmothers and long lost lovers at the top of recipes are to achieve better SEO and a good example of how SEO made the internet worse.

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[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I can give a fun example for both ddg and Google:

Earlier today I was writing an exam paper for my students, and one of the topics is "basic" normal distribution. So, I thought to myself, why not make it I testing, give them a real world normal model.

Try it yourselves - the number of bot reposts is frightening.

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[-] LemonLord@endlesstalk.org 8 points 1 year ago

Discovering new search machines would be an alternative. But they all have their filters and algorithms which make it hard to find exactly what you want. In the long run the internet will be run by AI serving copyright cowbows and big governance.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

I use Bing AI for complex results and duck duck go mostly, I can't use Google search, it brings too much curated content that is different then the query

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Well since you can't change how google works you have to just either deal with it or change search engines.

[-] ani@endlesstalk.org 7 points 1 year ago

What do you mean?

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

This is why the big search engines are throwing money at large language models. They hope AI-curated results is the next revolutionary advance.

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[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Try other search pages, like Qwant.

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