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[-] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agree with you in general, but I think a lot if people here are not really informed what differences there are materialistic ideologies.

Yes, Stalin bad.

But Guevara is not Stalin.

Marx is not che

Engels is not Marx

China is not communist.

Marxism is not materialism

Socialism is not communism

Also the amount of people bringing the "the 3 times people tried socialism were bad, so the whole ideology must be bad" argument are way to high IMHO.

How many times was capitalism tried? How many times it worked out? Is the USA a "functioning" state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

While I agree with you, that oppression is bad, no matter what the oppressor calls himself, we should talk about policies without resorting to dogmas and generalising people in favor of fear the hegemonic class is propagating to stay in power.

[-] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's not the tankies here; these are "North Korea is a great country, actually" tankies.

[-] pleasemakesense@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Also, "anything negative about a communist country is US propaganda"

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

or "russia is correctly in invading ukraine"

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[-] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

When a liberal says "tankie" they mean anything remotely communist-looking. When a leftist says "tankie", they mean authoritarians who like red flags and self-proclaimed communists who nonetheless support hierarchies and have no plan or intention to bring them down. I think the vast majority of people here knows this already.

I think the vast majority of people here knows this already.

You are way optimistic.

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[-] rowie324@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

tankies more like no thankies

[-] tanja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Based.

They already have lemmygrad.

Honestly, I don't think we need them here.

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[-] shadowscale@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

there's literally a community called "moretankie196", they should go infest that one instead

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[-] Whisdeer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Can we have something like tankiejerk here? I seriously liked browsing that sub after a bad day with the red fashs.

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[-] starship_lizard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
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[-] Big_Farto@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I got banned from lemmygrad for saying acab means all cops lmao

[-] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they yearn for the glorious people's boot

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[-] Kagami@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

When a leftist, or progressive says “tankie” it is different from what the mainstream media perceives. It (tankie) indicates someone who is overzealously supportive of non-Western imperialist countries such as Russia and China and denies their atrocities.

Also, the term developed from the tanks deplored by the user to invade Hungary and denote people who supported such action.

[-] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

What are some good actual communist lemmy communities that aren't supporting the fucking capitalist imperialist russian invasion?

[-] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

look for anarchists if you desire a classless, stateless, moneyless society.

communism has been coopted by auth apologists infatuated with the color red.

[-] kartonrealista@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

But what if I'm not an anarchist? I like Marx but not Lenin, so I can't be an ML either.

[-] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-are-you-an-anarchist-the-answer-may-surprise-you

anarchism acknowledges Marxist theory, but rejects the need for a state/beaurocratic apparatus, as it is considered to be fundamentally oppressive.

the state is an abstraction of capital, and cannot liberate the working class, as it exists to perpetuate its own hegemonic existence, our subjugation.

governance need not be heirarchichal; I promote collective mutual determination as an egalitarian system by which society can organize.

can't dismantle the master's house with the master's tools

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[-] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Just removed like 40 comments and banned a buncha people.

[-] dsmaster7173@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

holy shit they kicked the tankies out of 196

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[-] animelivesmatter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

finds social media developed by tankies

looks inside

finds tankies

fr I'm down with having a good old purge eventually but noone should be surprised

[-] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Thank fuck. I thought Lemmy was some ultra militant leftist hellhole before the shift.

I don't like extreme radical left any more than extreme radical right.

Fuck Che Guevara. Read a book.

[-] fae@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

tankies arent radical left. they are authoritarians ffs

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This comment section is really something uh

[-] Silverstrings@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tankies on their way to explain why teaming up with the Nazis to conquer Poland is actually based and totally in line with Marxist philosophy.

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