Speaking from only people I know, but, uh, that is definitely very weird and I'm pretty sure most people think torturing people/animals is a really weird thing. You're the normal one here. As for the content... it's probably just some really, really niche stuff.

People can be to serious too, but I’m sure the opposite can be a problem.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer_and_Hoe

The empire is and always has been fascism. It's not decaying into fascism. What's decaying is its ability to manage its internal contradictions. This is, ultimately, a necessary process. Do not feel hopeless while you watch the empire crumble. It will have to go through a battle with its own demons no matter what.

If mild celebrating of fascist sympathizers (still too much, I agree) and some institutions promoting "traditional values" were enough to define fascism, most countries in existence could be labeled fascist, one way or another.

Obviously none of this is good, but no, I don't think Russia is heading to fascism. Too comfortable with some forms of it? Definitely, 100%. But it is incomparable to what is going on on a daily basis not only in Israel, Ukraine and the Baltics (ie. the most extreme forms of it), but in the USA, Brussels and across the EU, in the UK, Canada, Australia, etc...

Things can have more nuance than "everything is fascism/heading to fascism" and this is one of those things. Russia remains a civilization-state with many constituent peoples and proper autonomous regions rather than a supremacist ethno-state nor a unrepentant, genocidal squatter-state like Israel, the US, and Canada; it remains anti-imperialist and a major part of the forces against white, western supremacy, exploitation, and genocide worldwide (even if a large part of it is due to circumstance); obviously, it should receive critical rather than unconditional support, but same goes with Iran, Afghanistan, with the Saudis' move away from the west, with Mexico, Brazil, the list goes on... hell, same goes (if to a far lesser extent as there simply is far less to criticize, and proletarian rule is something that must inherently be defended in and of itself) for AES states.

European “communists” never fail to disappoint.

argument that there are too few children for adoption

That’s an insane problem to have. Mfs like “I want my own physical being to take care of and put tons of effort into in addition to my work.” This problem calls for less traditional family norms, not more. Have these revisionists not even read the manifesto?

Abolition [Aufhebung] of the family!

Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists. On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie. But this state of things finds its complement in the practical absence of the family among the proletarians, and in public prostitution.

The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when its complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the vanishing of capital. Do you charge us with wanting to stop the exploitation of children by their parents? To this crime we plead guilty. But, you say, we destroy the most hallowed of relations, when we replace home education by social.

-Karl Marx

Earlier he notes:

The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.

Your Greek opportunists do not understand that we are trying to move past capitalism, not to revert to earlier relations.

One more thing. I’m sure one of the worries is the “demographic crisis.” The solution they should be putting forward is making the bourgeoisie lower the cost of living. Criminalizing gay people isn’t going to make them be straight and have kids.

What's really absurd about their position is they're taking an anti-materialist stance on the family and its origins. There's nothing natural about the nuclear family, it is a modern construct that emerged alongside the state and capitalism.

My guess is that the way that liberalism and capitalist modernity now pretends to embrace gender and sexuality minorities has caused them to take a reflexive stance against it, as if communism is just reactionary anti-liberalism. Do they even read theory?

That isn't controversial for a modern Marxist party, unfortunately. Most of them seem to be neck-deep in homophobia and/or TERF shit.

CW: homophobia

The Greek party position could be sound but only if you're missing something important in the wording of the proposed law. Maybe there's a clause that abolishes parental leave/pay while granting equal marriage rights. I can see why they'd challenge that if it would (a) remove support for all parents on the very day of the victory (i.e. for equal marriage/parental rights) and (b) lead reactionaries to blame homosexual couples for their loss of support. Idk, though. If that's the case, it'd be better to campaign for amendments than to vote against it completely.

Either way, it's problematic to challenge homosexual couples adopting due to surrogacy because unless they plan to abolish surrogacy, it essentially means a ban on homosexuals having children unless they have a child by a different heterosexual relationship (I imagine single people can't easily adopt). Maybe they plan to get into power, abolish surrogacy, and then grant full family rights to homosexual couples. If that's the case, it's a terrible plan; how long are homosexuales supposed to wait?

If you've got a link to an English (or Spanish) translation, I'll have a look. Is it this? https://inter.kke.gr/en/articles/The-commercialization-of-surrogacy-is-a-billion-dollar-business-obscurantism-modern-day-barbarity-and-brutal-exploitation/ If it is: shit show of a communist party. Accusing the bill-proposers of obscuring the true benefactors and of appealing to the right wing while complaining about the loss of the mother-father binary. A reactionary US local government is trying to ban the use of 'pregnant people' and other 'woke language' and here we have a Greek 'communist' arguing that he wants to stop the same thing from even entering Greek discourse.

Who gives af if the state calls parents 'parent 1' and 'parent 2', anyway, even if that does happen elsewhere (I'm not convinced it does). Or 'parent 3' for that matter. Kids will still be raised to call their moms 'mom' and their dads 'dad' if the family wants that. I can't see any family of any sexual orientation numbering the parents except as a joke. Utterly bizarre argument. The kind of thing you hear from the conservatives.

And opposing progress because the right wing might take advantage of it? We won't get very far if we take that approach.

Sounds like the KKE has found what they think is a clever way of pandering to conservatives under the guise of 'thinking about the working class'. I can't wait for the day that 'communists' realise that conservatives aren't put off by this or that progressive position but because they're bloody communists. We might actually build some solidarity and get the revolution going when that happens.

Welcome to being a communist in the west. You're not wrong. You're just realising how many Western marxists are wrong.

proles of the roundtable is very informative and funny

I had six last week, but they were extremely easy. Good luck.

midterm solidarity

good luck

You too :D

She did the FNAF jumpscare lol

Sa-sa bossmang!

Got to keep the scam going if you want your own money back. That was the lesson from Enron.

All in all, this bot is very neat! And the responses it generates seem quite to the point so far. Also, Comrade Stalin seems ridiculously well informed on 21st century stuff.