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posting in 8k in protest of moldy mondays rule (lemmy.cafe)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

At this point, I'd say it's not just correct but a moral obligation. Adobe has caused incalculable damage to the softwarescape by buying up smaller but popular companies, shoving their products full of AI crap, and putting them behind a subscription.

Allegorithmic used to have Linux releases for several of their Substance products. They no longer exist. Guess what fucking happened.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

Unless it's for video editing, in which case Davinci Resolve is better, and it's free.

[-] EndHD@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

or photo editing, in which case GIMP is better, and it's FOSS

[-] TxzK@lemmy.zip 13 points 9 months ago

GIMPs UI is steaming hot pile of shit unfortunately. It's very powerful yes, but the UI is really hard to figure out.

[-] original_reader@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Can't say I agree.

That said, this probably isn't true if someone is transitioning from Photoshop, which is probably the context of this discussion. I have seen people who start with Gimp without knowing Photoshop and they got into it fairly quick.

Using Gimp and expecting the same logic and structure as Photoshop will indeed lead to initial difficulties.

I don't want to get into a war here. Am sure there's things more complicated in Gimp than PS, but also vice versa.

Either way, I know a number of people who do stunning work with Gimp in little time.

[-] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 9 months ago

I often find this is the biggest obstacle with moving people to FOSS solutions. People want an alternative to Photoshop, so you show them Gimp, and they immediately get frustrated because they try to apply the logic and design philosophies of Photoshop to Gimp. People want an alternative to Windows, so you show them Linux, and they immediately get frustrated because they try to apply the logic and design philosophies of Windows to Linux. And then when it doesn't work the same way, then obviously that is a deficiency of the alternative, and not simply them having to learn a new way of doing things.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

gtk3 is coming 👀

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I can’t wait for that steaming pile of hot UI garbage to be on the hottest of GUI toolkits that came out in 2011

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

GTK 3 ?? They've sure taken their sweet time with it

[-] Nanomerce@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

hasn't it been coming for like a million years

[-] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago

There's a project by Diolinux called PhotoGimp, which aims to make Gimp look like Photoshop. It also changes all the keybinds to match those of PS.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Sadly it hasn’t had a new release in 2 years. It will probably go the way of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop, which aimed to do the same before it was discontinued

[-] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Oh wow, I never noticed, and it's not even been two years since I've started using it. Whoops.

Well then, I'm gonna go try and figure out how to run Affinity in Wine.

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

Gimp 3.0 should help afiak

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 months ago

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

As someone with both installed, I disagree. Photoshop is the industry standard for a reason.

I'll use GIMP when I'm doing editing for my job that doesn't pay for an Adobe license, but otherwise I'll use Photoshop every time.

[-] Khrux@ttrpg.network 3 points 9 months ago

It's sad to say but Photoshop smokes basically all of its competitors except the ones that get into a specificic niche, but even then stuff like illustrator and lightroom compete well in that marketplace.

Photoshop may not be FOSS but it may as well be considered free due to the rampant piracy. I frequently recommend it forgetting it's a subscription based Ad*be made product.

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer finally broke my pirated Photoshop/Illustrator addiction. They are affordable seriously good alternatives with a classic 'pay once for a major release' model instead of a subscription. I'm a fairly advanced user and there was nothing I miss from the Adobe products, although real professionals may have more complex needs.

Also no Linux version. ☹️

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

illustrator doesn't. Inkscape rocks

[-] Khrux@ttrpg.network 2 points 9 months ago

Hell yeah I should have said that really. My friend has an embroidery machine and we use inkstitch for inkscape to do that.

I don't really move between lightroom, inkscape and Photoshop often but I do move between premier pro, after effects and audition often enough via the way they embed into eachother, and I presume there is similar functionality between those. This helps cement me using something like audition over audacity just because I'm trained on premier pro and don't wanna retrain on DaVinci Resolve.

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[-] jawa21@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

How bad is the learning curve? I've been cobbling stuff together with Openshot.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Pretty steep, it's software aimed at professionals, and it shows. There are a few tutorials from Black Magic design where you can download the source media and follow along, which I found very useful.

I found you really need to spend a few evenings learning the software before you actually edit anything.

[-] jawa21@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago

Thanks, I'll check out that tutorial.

[-] turddle@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The curve is pretty fun at least. And the free version comes with a lot

[-] bob_lemon@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago

If you see someone pirate proprietary software: No you didn't.

[-] MiddledAgedGuy@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

Are knowing nods acceptable?

[-] deadbeef@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

First you tell them about the FSF...

I’d like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as Linux is in fact GNU/Linux or as recently i have taken to calling - GNU+Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself but rather another free component of a full functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

[-] tourist@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Just came here to say fuck Adobe acrobat

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Adobe: 🤢

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

horrid piece of software

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago

foxit pdf reader

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

I prefer Sumatra

[-] SpermGoobler@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

This is the highest quality version of this meme I've ever seen

[-] BynaD@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Must have been made with pirated photoshop.

[-] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Anyone know where I could get a good copy of Lightroom?

[-] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

So cgpeers has been the best place to get those from for me buuut they closed registrations a couple of years ago now. I can throw a link to the 2024 monkrus version I grabbed though. Not sure how people are with straight up linking things in here though.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago

Would you say you pirate those products by...

Prince-ple?

[-] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Mom, can we get Prince

We already have Prince at home.

Prince at home ^

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 9 months ago

I remember being told to get GIMP because it's the same thing as Photoshop but free and open source. So I tried it.

It's not the same. Not by a long shot. Those who love it because it's open source should mod it up to actually be as good as Photoshop.

[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

I feel like it's even advantageous to them to pirate. If everyone wanting to work in graphic design pirates Photoshop, they'll know how to use it in the business world, and their work will buy it because it's what everyone knows.

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