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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by ajsadauskas@aus.social to c/australianpolitics@aussie.zone

Hold on a sec, weren't we all told that privatisation would lead to cheaper electricity prices?

Weren't we told that repealing the carbon tax would lead to cheaper electricity prices?

Weren't we told that sticking with (more expensive) coal and gas power over (cheaper) renewables and storage would lead to cheaper electricity prices?

From the ABC:

"At the heart of the price gouging inquiry, initiated by the ACTU and led by Allan Fels, is determining in a high inflation environment what's general inflation and what else might be influencing pricing behaviour, the main offending price gouging industries, how they do it and how it impacts everyday Australians.

"Part of the problem is Australia is awash with oligopolies, which means there isn't as much price competition as there might otherwise be, which helps explain why real wage growth has been low and why the real prices of so many goods are so high.

"And while most of the media attention has been on Coles and Woolworths, the report will include other sectors accused of customer gouging and breaching trust such as energy, airlines and banks.

"Sydney University professor Lynne Chester, from the school of social and political sciences, supplied the inquiry with a detailed submission ... [which] said electricity prices have been escalating since 2005, largely due to increases in the charges paid for the generation of electricity. She said the charge for electricity makes up a significant component of the electricity price paid for by consumers.

"A key issue was that the regulation was designed for a competitive market, assuming competition would deliver lower prices, but the market was never competitive due to the presence of big powerful generator companies that have been merging with retail companies to create giants such as AGL, Origin and Energy Australia."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-05/price-gouging-grocery-prices-energy-bills-airfares-inquiry-actu/103420574

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Lol. Ask a Texan how electricity privatization is going. So sorry to hear y’all got duped by this con as well.

[-] ljj@aus.social 19 points 7 months ago

@ajsadauskas
Privatisation is the perfect grift. It always involves some combination of:
- buying assets for less than they are worth
- being guaranteed a return
- being able to run services / assets down while increasing prices
- being given grants to stay viable once assets start failing

@australianpolitics
#auspol #australia #economics #energy #privatisation #electricity #ClimateChange #politics #business

[-] gjd@aus.social 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

@ljj @ajsadauskas @australianpolitics the worst thing is that everyone involved knew it was a con, but they did it anyway, because the con was the whole point

and as usual the media carried their water

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Same thing happened in Belgium. In the 90´s, the electric company was national. Then they privatized and sold EVERYTHING to France's GDF Suez, and now they own our national grid and price gouge us. I mean, the choice is between extortion and nothing at all.

I hate this entire fucking world.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago

Privatizing or deregulating a monopoly definitely won't drive general consumer cost savings since they have no incentive to actually make it cheaper.

[-] incogtino@lemmy.zip 14 points 7 months ago

I don't remember the privatisation specifically, but I can guess it went something like this

If you're a Liberal voter, you were told that capitalism will trickle down all over you. Sure you have to put the boot into some poor people, but they're all dole bludgers anyway

If you're a Labor, Greens or Independent voter you were told to go fuck yourself

[-] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Labour in Aotearoa court the corporate now. There is no true workers party. All the parties want to bankrupt the middle class, if it still exists, I think we are just mostly poor.

[-] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 months ago

Fuck neo-liberalism

[-] giddy@aussie.zone 10 points 7 months ago

WA here and quite happy with our government owned monopoly

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Neoliberals don't actually believe neoliberism works, they just tell you it will because they make millions of dollars when it fails.

[-] Beryl@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Yeah but it's either that or the shareholders would have to buy a slightly smaller yacht, so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[-] jedsetter@aus.social 2 points 7 months ago

@ajsadauskas @australianpolitics yeah if you can't feasible set up a competitor it fails the 'should be privatised' test. Ofc there's caveats on having a private operator running specific functions but selling infrastructure that is 'one of a kind' and very necessary into private hands is insane. Dams, rail roads, highways, transmission infrastructure all fall in this category.

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