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[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 73 points 8 months ago

Why does this more feel like somone stole this from an old racists Facebook post?

[-] grayaytrox@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

I respect people and their beliefs as long as they respect other people and theirs.

I don't have time for people who use force to make others believe in their god. I didn't put up with Christianity being forced down my throat in primary school, and that stance won't change, however; if people want to politely talk about it, I won't shut them down.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Religion, as a baseline, disrespects our intelligence.

[-] grayaytrox@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Use that intelligence to talk about your point of view. If they don't want to change their mind, how is that insulting? For some people, the belief in god/s is a comfort in this shitty world that helps them get through the day. I have no problem with that.

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't have a problem with that either but what I do have a problem with is people who believe in fairy tails being able to vote and influence the laws I am forced to live under.

So In general I just hate religion.

[-] grayaytrox@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Terrible things have been and are still been done in the name of religion, so I guess I can't blame you for hating it. I also totally agree religion has no place in politics.

I think the best any of us can do is play the long game and educate people without insulting them. Calling their religion a fairy tail - even if that's what you strongly believe, will just make them defensive, dig their heels in and refuse to hear what you have to say. You might even give them the wrong idea about what Athiesm means.

There will be eventually be enough people in the right places to be abe to say enough is enough and pass legislation to remove the religious aspect of the laws of the county they are in.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Respect is a reservoir. It fills slowly, and when the damn breaks, it empties all at once. Once that happens, it doesn't fill up again until the damn is repaired.

A man can believe whatever he wants, but when he spouts off some racist bullshit, suddenly all of the redirect for his beliefs fades away too. Everything he said before is tainted, and I've no reason to respect any of it.

[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 26 points 8 months ago

"I can't do that because of my religion"

That's okay.

"You can't do that because of my religion"

Not okay.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 24 points 8 months ago

Everybody gets a base level respect, they can either earn more, stay the same of lose it.

They can nevere get respect by demanding it

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

Then they have to respect mine 🤘

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

exactly, mutual respect is the only way to go

[-] Assman@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

I respect your right to play make believe

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Respect the person but their religion is their own game. Boundaries!

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago

You don't have to respect religious beliefs, but every person that treats people with respect, also deserves some respect.

[-] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

You have to respect my wish to not respect your religion,

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I am still very much annoyed when I found out this week that Catholics can eat eggs for lent but not chicken since potential life isn't actual life if it is tasty.

Zero mutual respect zero. If they don't want an abortion they are welcome to not have one, but that live and let live wasn't enough for them.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

uh, eggs you eat aren't gonna hatch. I don't see potential for life there. and it doesn't have to do with life anyway. even complex animal life. Fish are on the menu.

[-] riskable@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago

No! Leave the egg alone for long enough and it will be full of life! Trust me, anyone who tries this will know immediately that life found a way!

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Maybe scientists can find a way to reimplantat it like an ectopic pregnancy. Christianity official stances is that ectopic fetuses life is more important than a woman

[-] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

I think they meant bacteria/mold

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I did some searching and it doesn't even matter if it is fertilized or not for lent. Which is why Catholics can have quail eggs as well.

Load of shit hypocrisy child raping bastards force women to die for "potential" life and sit there eating eggs

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

You are being disingenuous anyway. if they thought the dietary restriction was about life, wouldn't it be year-round and not just during Lent? Be serious, the abortion thing is about human life only. Your anger is getting the better of your brain.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I know that when it suits them they defined an egg to not be a bird and at the same time they defined an ectopic fetus to be a person.

Your sympathy for the worldwide pedo league is making you blind to the hypocrisy

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago

Every religious faith has to negotiate between the mores of the society in the era and its scripture.

Jesus is now a brand, as we can see in thr juxtaposition of the He Gets Us Jesus and the mores actively practiced by those who promote and finance the HGU campaign.

I respect the identities of parishioners. I respect that they have beliefs. I respect when their principles are consistently held.

But once they are a danger to themselves or others, I cannot any longer afford that respect.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I have no issue with faith until it wants to direct the government. Then I get cranky.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Human sacrifice was also a widely held religious belief...

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I think the rules don't really apply for outright murder more like don't yell at someone for having a weird head covering.

[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago

Now do it with a christian instead.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Why? We don't have to be EEO about religious mockery. No obligation at all that every religions get yelled at exactly the same amount.

Besides which you have to at least pretend to respect Christianity since it rules the world. Even if you hate it it is is still one of the biggest facts of living on earth.

[-] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

In the US, I can't discriminate against a person because of their religion. It says nothing about respect. Especially if you're using it as an excuse for shitty behavior.

[-] jumperalex@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Hate the faith, love the faithful

[-] NightShot@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

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