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[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

While some Republicans are decrying this, do not forget that Donald Trump had Nick Fuentes at Mar-A-Lago (with Kanye)

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

These groups don't even give a shit about their conference. These articles about the controversy are the entire reason they do this. I'd say 'stop giving them exactly what they want ever time they do this', but that will never happen.

[-] effingjoe@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago
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[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I've heard plenty from Republicans that also dislike this. The GOP is absolutely broken into two groups and they hate each other. At some point one side will form a third party or just disappear.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They hate each other right up until election day when they all fall in line together.

Don't let Republican hand-wringing over other Republicans fool you. They still have a common enemy to unite them- the fear of anyone except Republicans having power.

[-] jdsquared@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I mean I understand the truth in this but look at the Georgia results in 2020. Biden won the state even though a lot of other Republicans got more votes than Trump. There wasn't a down ticket effect for democrats, a lot of Republicans just left it blank instead of voting for Trump.

I'm not sure about other states, I live in Georgia so i was hyperaware about what was happening here.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The other way to look at that is that it took a man as shockingly vile as Trump to make them reconsider even one specific R for the presidency, but they still voted R the rest of the way down. Don't underestimate Republican commitment to voting Republican.

Also I think Biden's win in Georgia can be attributed more to increased voter turnout than a few Rs declining to vote for Trump.

[-] jdsquared@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah I brought in 6 new voters between the presidential and the runoffs for Warnock! I felt so useful.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That is pretty awesome. Getting more people to partiipcate matters more than almost anything else at this point.

[-] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why does he still look like he's in prep school?

There's a painting of a 90-year-old Dachau camp guard aging in his attic, I just know it.

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe it has something to do with this.

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-shaman-threatens-expose-false-prophet-republican-event-1812085

Here is one of Fuentes quotes: "I want a 16-year-old who is untouched, untouched, pristine, untouched, not corrupted, innocent,"

[-] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

well, now i'm convinced that Fuentes met Dorian Grey in a Weimar Berlin gay bar, killed him, and stole his painting because the only thing in the article that defies belief is that Fuentes is 32.

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

They know who their supporters are.

[-] dub@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The GOP aren't sending their best

[-] Gellis12@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

They are though, and that's what's scary

[-] squidman64@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is a reference to former president Donald Trump saying most Mexican immigrants were criminals and rapists

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7764650-when-mexico-sends-its-people-they-re-not-sending-their-best

[-] Gellis12@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I know, but I still stand by what I said

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

They are Nazis.

[-] sadreality@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, give this shit stain more publicity, allow these clowns make careers on your outrage.

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Are you suggesting Nick Fuentes profits off this post? Honestly, I don't know where people like Nick get their money, but it's not from me and it's not from this post.

It seems to me multiple groups in the Republican party, and the de facto leader of the party are the ones promoting him.

[-] sadreality@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago

Shit stain says clown shit

Internet mocks it

So someone invites him to speak and pays him decent money for this vomit.

Y'all get on here and generate engagement by decrying him and saying how outraged you are, how bad he is.

He gets bigger gig for more money

Repeat.

He is on Joe Rogan...

now he is a household name with patron donations from other degenerates and speaking fees

This business model has been around for a while but Jordan Peterson really showed every one how to do it properly.

And yet, people still falling it for it.

"TaTe Iz RaPisT" maybe so but that's a criminal matter, y'all constantly clicking on articles with his name is generating him support and revenue. Fucking STOP.

[-] effingjoe@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ignoring a problem does not make it go away. Consider the viewpoint in this youtube video. It is pretty long. The whole series is really good. This one is one of the last ones, I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCl33v5969M

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[-] sadreality@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How about you summarize the point you are trying tot make so every one can understand what you are saying instead of assigning homework to online strangers while likely promoting somebody's "influencer" career

[-] effingjoe@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

That's fair-- I take the same stance usually-- I really should have just done that from the get go, huh?

Your response above-- the one I replied to, is also a "win state" for bigots. They win when you ignore them, and when you give them attention. The video goes on to point out that framing the scenario like you are, where the battlefield is a war over attention, that minorities are being treated as tools or pieces on a board, and both sides are engaging in bigotry.

My summary sucks, but maybe it's enough to get you to take a look?

[-] sadreality@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

How's clicking on articles about a bigot and showing your outrage on social media actually combat the bad actor?

I am all about improving the tactics but I don't see this one as viable? What is the advice?

[-] effingjoe@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I can't watch the video for you, friend. If you're curious, watch it. If you're not, then don't.

[-] sadreality@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you are more interested in promoting the video than engaging in discussion at hand tbh

[-] effingjoe@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't see any reason why I should transcribe a video for you, when it's freely available to watch at your leisure. I find the video series insightful when it comes to understanding and combatting bigotry and those that champion it-- and for sure, you may not. I only wanted to bring it to your attention because it directly applies to the discussion, and assuming your end goal is combatting bigotry, you might be interested in knowing that the way you're going about it isn't likely to work.

[-] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the video provides context for the conversation. if you're not interested in doing the work in order to participate, fine, but demanding that they transcribe possibly thousands of words just because you refuse to watch the video isn't reasonable.

[-] sadreality@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If someone can't express a thesis in a few sentences, I am questioning their ability to do critical analysis.

That's lazy, and frankly, unprofessional way to conduct an online discussion.

[-] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

they have no obligation to do exceed to your entitled demands, and this is not a "profession" but a casual conversation. again, if you refuse to make the effort to do what's required to participate in it, then that is your choice. don't complain when others won't do that work for you.

grow up.

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Well I'm here to say f*** Nick Fuentes and f*** anybody who hosts him.

Why don't you be the change you want to see in this world, and stop contributing to this post.

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