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This community got removed from lemmy.world (again) (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 7 months ago by Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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This is another post that alerted me of this.

https://lemmy.world/post/13287681

And here is the modlog:

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveCommunity

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[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 166 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Just a quick update, lemmy.world has posted an update that explains their decision here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/16795373

TLDR is that the person who removed the community is fairly new to the mod team and didn't realize there was a bit of a history to this situation. Also, looks like they are sticking with the decision this time around though.

Please don't harass the lemmy.world admins/mods though - if you don't like the situation you are free to register here or on another instance. And if you aren't a lemmy.world user, then this doesn't affect you at all.

I'm proud of our community here, and it's their loss, not ours! pirate captain giving the thumbs up

updated the link

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 78 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The translation is, "It wasn't us don't get angry, but also it kind of was one of us and also we are sticking by the decision so it may as well have been us." I don't really see that it matters if the story is true - in the best possible case they're just saying that they don't have a way of setting policies and having those policies be followed.

If we've learned anything from centralised platforms it's that size doesn't protect platforms from the consequences of making bad decisions.

[-] Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 months ago

Lemmy world mods are a joke.

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[-] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 169 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Why are people joining .world to begin with? The entire point of this is to decentralize. Joining the by far largest instance beats the entire purpose.

Join smaller ones like lemmy.one, lemmy.club, lemmings.world, lemmy.zip etc. We might need to start specifically recommending against .world and for general purpose instances like those.

Also, funny how even reddit allows r/Piracy but not .world lol

[-] Blaze@dormi.zone 82 points 7 months ago

Sync had Lemmy.world as the default instance to register a new account (might still be the case, I'm not sure). One of the factors for sure.

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 76 points 7 months ago

So does Voyager, Raccoon, and Eternity. Everything is just defaulting to it and it's infuriating.

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[-] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 7 months ago

The dev really needs to change that then.

Perhaps have a system of selecting randomly from a set of hand-picked general purpose instances at sign-up, where having less people gives it a higher chance of being picked (if it's of at least a certain size of course, to prevent spam etc)

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[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 69 points 7 months ago

Why are people joining .world to begin with?

Because how it works when you first join is very confusing, and why you would choose any particular server is not clear at all.

Also, people want to join something that is bigger and more active because it feels like it would be better (more stable, more content, etc.)

[-] Evoliddaw@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 months ago

In all fairness I applied to 5 Lemmy instances when the Reddit downfall started, including .ca and .world. .ml to date is still the only one to have processed my application. It may have been due to lots of applications at the time but the sheer fact my application is still pending on the other 4 instances leads me to use the one that actually works as opposed to the first one I chose.

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[-] sudoreboot@slrpnk.net 55 points 7 months ago

Because they have no basis on which to decide where to go. It's like buying toothpaste but there are hundreds of options, none of which you know anything about, so you get whichever seems most popular. It minimises the risk of ending up with something which is unpopular for good reasons.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 20 points 7 months ago

If you join a small instance, the chances are higher that it will a) be poorly maintained and b) fold quicker, forcing you to find another instance to join and re-subscribe to all your communities.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 months ago

so long as you're regularly exporting your profile, moving instances isn't a big deal anymore.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 26 points 7 months ago

The whole point is most people want simplicity, not a chore.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

convenience, freedom, price, safety. Choose 2

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 126 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The speed that this happened suggests they might have gotten spooked by something. Put down the pitchforks mates and give them a chance to explain first.

EDIT: Welp, I expected an explanation by now...

EDIT2: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/16795373

[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 49 points 7 months ago

If there's anything they should be spooked by, it's the pitchforks!

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[-] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 months ago

Don't you guys have an admin chat group. Or at least you guys would have some way of keeping in touch since this has happened before.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 7 months ago

We do, in fact. They never gave a heads-up, and none has responded until now. I found about this from this post

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 months ago

Well at least they honored their commitments /s

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[-] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 months ago

That's unfortunate.

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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 7 months ago

average lemmy.world moment

being the biggest has it's problems

[-] Amir@lemmy.ml 35 points 7 months ago

its

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[-] CapitanStrider@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 7 months ago

Luckily it doesn't affect anything beyond people who insist on using only one instances (world). Glad to have dbzer0 around.

[-] fuwa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 7 months ago

I have four accounts on the four instances that host communities I am interested in.

It's a mild pain and definitely not what we were promised, but I guess that's the only way federation can really work in practice (especially considering when an instance is blocked user on the blocker side just continue to see it frozen in time, with no warning as to what's going on)

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 21 points 7 months ago

It’s a mild pain and definitely not what we were promised

I think this is precisely what the ActivityPub model of federation promised, actually 😅

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[-] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 7 months ago

Sigh.

On the up side, if anyone wants in, they are free to create accounts on other instances

[-] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The part that annoys me is that this was done silently even though last time they said they would ask their users. Hopefully it was just an admin that didn't get the last memo.

Edit: the community -> their users

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[-] Blaze@dormi.zone 28 points 7 months ago

Indeed, especially with 0.19 that allows you to migrate your subs and block lists in two clicks

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[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 60 points 7 months ago

A few of the bigger instances have been very open about the fact that they're anti-piracy, anti-porn, etc and removing this community is par for the course with such a stance.

What does that mean for the average user? It means there's more incentive to move to better instances. It's when instances have such a monopoly on users and communities that people should not only move, but advocate for other people moving to smaller instances.

Also a major benefit of not being federated by large instances is that there's less surface area for search engines and thus resources last longer.

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[-] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 51 points 7 months ago

Would be a good time to finally leave .world behind. That instance is way too big

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 49 points 7 months ago

I moved to lemm.ee from .world the last time they banned these communities, as a momentarily fix, never cared to look back as here was better managed, no censorship, quicker updates and no noticeable downtimes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 19 points 7 months ago

me too, enjoy seeing the occasional hexbear, ml, lemmygrad, etc

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[-] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If any admins of lemmy.world are around, I created !westcoastedm@lemmy.dbzer0.com for the explicit reason of sharing copyright protected music. Can you ban it too? Wouldn't want to get you guys in trouble with mommy and daddy.

[-] CommunityLinkFixer 20 points 7 months ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !westcoastedm@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[-] Fitik@fedia.io 43 points 7 months ago

Another reason why I like Fediverse

If Lemmy.world would have full control over it, this community would just get banned, but there's more and it is still accessable from all other places

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[-] somethingchameleon@lemmy.ca 29 points 7 months ago

I just left lemmy.world for lemmy.ca

Corporate cucks and their censors can go fuck themselves.

I'm done with that shit.

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[-] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 7 months ago

Hey it got me to switch to dbzer0!

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 months ago

Been here since I started Lemmy. It's so normal and well-done.

You're gonna like the way it works. I guarantee it.

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[-] Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works 20 points 7 months ago

[-] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 months ago

Looks like Lemmy has a tragic flaw…not decentralized enough.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 22 points 7 months ago

It's early days still. When this sort of thing triggers an "exodus" users will just shift to other instances, further decentralising the service without unduly hurting the platform. If big instances want to stay relevant they need to not enshittify. If it turns out that's impossible, then instances will have to stay small, which is fine by me. I certainly won't miss the majority of lemmy.world users.

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[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 months ago

A disunited federation is still a federation.

AFAIK, lemmy.world cannot remove !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com (but block this community or instance), because lemmy.world is another instance.

Pirates interested in this communities will find a way to lurk or participate.

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