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submitted 9 months ago by clark@midwest.social to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

*In terms of privacy, customisation, camera quality, and battery time.

For the longest time I have only used either iPhone or Samsung. I plan on switching to Android for the next phone I get, but I find that Samsung phones are often too big for me and put too much energy on camera quality (I don’t take many photos). I have started to look into brands such as Nokia and Motorola, and I would like to know what you guys think of them. Additionally, do you suggest any other phone brands aside from them? My biggest priorities are privacy and long battery time. Bonus if the phone can run LineageOS (I have excluded Graphene as they are only compatible with Pixel phones).

Thank you for any answers. Cheers!

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[-] headroom@lemmy.ml 66 points 9 months ago

I don't get people claiming stock iPhone is private. We literally have very little idea. It's a closed system. It's private if you take Apple's word but all the other manufacturers also have similar claims. Why trust Apple and not them?

On top of that you end up locked into their ecosystem, unable to use most FOSS applications or have cut down versions of them because daddy Apple didn't like some features.

[-] Rose@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

A friend told me there's no point in stealing them as it's impossible to unlock or wipe them, which would give them the edge at least in that respect. Is this accurate?

[-] headroom@lemmy.ml 29 points 9 months ago

Yes iPhones are secure but not private. The two are related but different concepts. I'm not sure what exactly your friend is referring to though.

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[-] ebits21@lemmy.ca 28 points 9 months ago
[-] EntropyPure@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

In regards to stock systems, I agree.

Been stuck in the convenient ecosystem for a while, and I cope by telling myself Apple makes the bulk of its money with hardware and services. Not ads like Google. But if I would start over from zero, I think Graphene OS and Linux would be the way. But migrating the whole family away from our current Apple line up - I dread that challenge.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

Eh, you can always start with yourself. Let the rest make their own decisions.

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[-] Mazoku@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

This made me laugh

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 26 points 9 months ago

For me it has to be Fairphone. They are more expensive than the others to buy new but they are more aligned with openness and free software. They receive updates for a long time, are well supported by CalyxOS, /e/os, Linux mobile OSs etc, are repairable, you can carry extra batteries, usually have an SD card slot and two SIM slots and are more environmentally-friendly than others.

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[-] viking@infosec.pub 25 points 9 months ago

OnePlus.

I'd never buy Samsung again, they are full of bloat and make it excessively hard to unlock the bootloader and get root access or install an alternative OS.

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[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 23 points 9 months ago

Don't exclude Pixel phones so quickly. They are one of the most versatile for custom ROMs, and they check all of your checkboxes. I love my CalxyOS Pixel 6.

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[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago

What phone brand do you like the best?

(I have excluded Graphene as they are only compatible with Pixel phones).

You're asking this on the privacy mag and intentionally/explicitly exclude the best privacy option with no explanation.

Wtf.

[-] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 9 points 9 months ago

GrapheneOS isn’t a phone brand.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago

It might as well be since it only works on Google Pixels.

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[-] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 15 points 9 months ago

If privacy is important, a custom ROM is highly recommended or rather mandatory. Most brands have locked boot loader which can't be unlocked immediately without voiding warranty. Some let you to using some bs proprietary software but only after few months. That was the only reason I had to resort to getting a pixel. So look into all the brands available to you and check their policy on custom rooms before looking into the mobile themselves.

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[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago

Sony. They still have a headphone jack.

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[-] nemys@explorer.niwego.com 12 points 9 months ago

@clark
Google Pixel with GrapheneOS
@privacy

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

xiaomi has awesome hardware, audio jack, sd slot, even ir blaster.

their privacy policy is bad, but a lot of them have official lineageos (and microg-patched lineage) and it works really really well.

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[-] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago
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[-] communism@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

Why exclude GrapheneOS? It's a really good mobile OS, and the creator has given his reasons for only supporting Pixels.

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[-] Neps@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oneplus with lineage os is pretty good but they sorta make it a pain to unlock the bootloader if the phone was not originally factory unlocked.

[-] vfosnar@beehaw.org 9 points 9 months ago

second hand Xiaomi + flash Lineage, good hardware for the price, community support

[-] ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

The mod on this post is on such a humongous power trip lmao. Someone needs a reality check and a few slaps.

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[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not under your specs but the Sony Xperia line offers a headphone jack + microSD, can be unlocked, & has flagship specs (1 & 5). The 5 & 10 models are also smaller devices that actually fit in one hand too. This characteristic combo does not come in the other models folks are suggesting. Older models have LineageOS for microG support if you want an ungoogled phone (but beware the stock camera app is trash).

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[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

i daily a Fairphone 4, has neither the best camera nor the best battery life. but it's the most repairable and durable phone i've owned.

i've had extremely good experieces with oneplus phones, dunno about custom ROM support though.

i've also heard good things about modern motorola phones, if the ROM support is there it's worth a shot imo.

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

Xiaomi and Oneplus have some battery beasts of phones.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

I like fairphone the best out of all the ones that are currently available, however, my next phone will be a Pixel 8A because grapheneos doesn't support fairphone

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[-] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 6 points 9 months ago

I just got a OnePlus 12 and this phone is fantastic. Bootloader is unlocked and you can do whatever you want. Battery is amazing. Charger is insane. Camera is more than decent. Price is very reasonable for what it offers.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago

I focus on the OS. However, I like the moto phones. I've had mine for 5 or 6 years and I don't have any reason to change.

[-] PoliticallyIncorrect@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

As I usually unlock bootloader, I just buy cheap Chinese phones from around 100 bucks, right now I'm using a FreeYond M5 5G. Debloated and rooted. Working like a charm.

Edit: I prefer Motorola over Nokia.

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