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Most of the discussion and sources of content talk about movies and series.

I've been recently looking for psy and techno music, finding FLAC or WAV with active seeders feels like striking gold. It's definitely been a while since I've looked for active torrent sites and it feels more barren than ever.

Edit: Thank you all for all that valuable information. The reddit group really wasn't this helpful and valued making fun over adding real use able knowledge.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Soulseek is the goto piracy thing for music.

Streaming service ripping is alive and well.

Youtube scrapers like Newpipe and alternative frontend makes listening easy if you aren't quality obsessed. This has been adequate for my levels of listening.

Some private trackers have massive music collection dumps.

However, I'd say directly supporting artists through storefronts like bandcamp is the best way to go, where it's available. No DRM, no bullshit, the artist benefits. This, to me, is the best alternative to piracy.

Napster, Deezer, Tidal aren't terrible offerings either FWIW.

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[–] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Spotify is very affordable and provides pretty much all music on earth. I'm not interested in jumping through hoops to download songs if I can just conveniently stream them all from one legit service.

[–] Lininop@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep its basically like Netflix before it shit the bed.

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[–] carson@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's certainly alive and exists.

But access to music is easy and affordable. It's more inconvenient for me to pirate it than just use a streaming service.

I also listen to a lot of independent artists and rather buy their stuff to support them.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Yup, I buy what I like on Bandcamp.

[–] kiddblur@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only music I pirate is stuff that isn’t on Spotify, namely Nintendo game soundtracks

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Expect a cease and desist order

[–] esty@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Doug Bowser will be at their doorstep shortly

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[–] yumac@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

I prefer there not being any lag in-between songs, which most streaming services have.

I usually use a streaming service like YouTube (through piped) to find new artists, then use soulseek to download their entire discography.

The problem with streaming is that the companies will eventually figure out new ways to squeeze every penny out of you. The once 'free' YouTube is now blocking adblocks, and Spotify requires DRM to be installed for it to function.

For me, piracy isn't just about convenience or price, it's mainly about control over the media I have.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You can pay for any streaming service that serves FLAC and rip that. Very easy to do for Tidal and Deezer for example.

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[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I buy on Bandcamp and pirate through Soulseek (specifically Nicotine+).

I also buy Vinyls.

Torrenting music has been pretty trash for me so I haven't bothered in ages.

[–] kelvinjps@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

bandcamp

I didn't know about bandcamp. I'm gonna buy some albums there. The music is drm-free? I think that what bandcamp and itch.io are doing should be the future of the industry.

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago

Yes, the music there is drm free. Keep in mind it's not ALL music. It's mostly music from independent artists. But they are the ones that need the most support. So go all in!

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago

Bandcamp is pretty great. I usually stream from their app but you can download music you buy in a bunch of formats.

I like their writeups they do sometimes (like a "best doom metal from Texas" deep dive)

They do Bandcamp Fridays sometimes where they yield their share of the sale to the artists.

I've also had artists write back a few times when I put a comment in the box when buying stuff. Most notably an invite to a show they were playing once.

They did get bought by epic though so they're not indie anymore. A bummer. But epic hasn't shit it up yet so far as I know.

[–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 3 points 2 years ago

IMO, Bandcamp is one of the best places to go if you actually want to support artists. Spotify and other streaming options tend to be the worst.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

why pirate when bandcamp has everything I want on FLAC for pennies and I get to send lewd messages to my favourite artists when I buy stuff

[–] monotrox@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The album prices are pretty high sometimes and many artists are not on bandcamp

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[–] c0mplexx@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

why pay pennies when you can pay 0

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[–] wolfnexus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Soulseek has most of what you need. 3ost has pretty rare stuff and rutracker as well

[–] rskn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Finally someone else that uses Soulseek. It's been around for years and is the best place to download whole albums or discographies in high quality.

[–] xengi@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago

For music from artists that don't exist anymore I mostly use ddl. If the artist is still there and offers a decent way of giving them money, I usually do that.

[–] plexnose@geddit.social 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I pay for family spotify - we all use it a lot and the Daily Mixes, Release Radar, Discover Weekly playlists are unbeatble. I've used Tidal, Deezer, Youtube music before but their playlist creation is nowwhere near as good.

However I do download from Deemix as a backup . For me 128kbp is totally fine for what I need - yes its not the highest quality, but through bluetooth speakers in the car or bluetooth headphones it sounds absolutely fine for me. It might not be CD quality, but its better than broadcast radio, which is perfectly good enough for me.

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

128kbp

You must love AM radio

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[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I have Spotify through a family plan but I do download backups for when the enshitification happens to them.

I just use lidarr with the deezloader script. Sign up for a month of deezer premium every six months and just download my back log. For $30/yr I always have a relatively up to date, lossless quality, music library backup.

[–] RyeBread@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I personally like being able to use Spotify as my front-end, but it doesn't support flac. So I personally pay for Deezer's Flac option, I use xManager for listening to music on Spotify, and I have a script setup to automatically download all my liked Spotify songs from Deezer in lossless flac. It's not free by any means, but is the best/easiest way to download music I've found.

https://github.com/jbh-cloud/spotify_sync

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[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (10 children)

You can pay for any streaming service that serves FLAC and rip that. Very easy to do for Tidal and Deezer for example.

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[–] monerobull@monero.town 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While youtube vanced is falling apart, vanced music is still running just fine for me :D

[–] quain@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mean vanced or revanced? For me latest revanced version works fine? What are the issues?

[–] monerobull@monero.town 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I mean vanced. I was too lazy to set up revanced and instead tried out NewPipe. I hate how I don't have my really optimized suggested page on NewPipe but I get around that by using vanced to browse and then opening the video in NewPipe via the share button. A nice plus of NewPipe however is how my subscriptions now really are just the channels I really care about and not the 1000 random ones I've subbed to over the last few years.

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[–] FujiTive@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not for me, I'm pirating tons of songs in these days. Try Soulseek it's a gold mine of good music with great quality

[–] 4th_Times_A_Charm@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

Soulseek has been great since I found it. I've been able to replace so much of my CD collection that I ripped 2 decades ago in 256 MP3 with flac.

[–] Fantasmita@lib.lgbt 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I just find the music theme that I desire to have on Spotify or YT, and then I ripoff from there. Pretty easy.

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[–] minnix@lemux.minnix.dev 6 points 2 years ago (16 children)

The soulseek network is still alive and well.

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[–] Heldenhirn@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'ma get hate for this but I'm not pirating out of principle but when I think something it's to expensive for it's price. I live in a country with good salaries and have to work less than one hour for one month of endless music. To me that is a good deal but I am aware that it is not to everyone especially those from other countries. I mostly pirate Movies and TV Shows because you would need to pay over 50€/month to get access to all services.

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[–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 5 points 2 years ago

I feel like it's easier than ever. I just rip official album playlists from Youtube Music. Quality should be on par with what you get from Spotify or iTunes. Personally, I've never found any official sources for music that doesn't use lossy compression, so I don't feel like it's possible to miss much by doing it like this.

[–] Misanthrope@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

I don't think it's dying at all. Check out private music trackers like https://redacted.ch/index.php or https://interview.orpheus.network/

OiNK -> WHAT.CD -> RED

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Pandora slowed a lot of my music collecting. Spotify and an unlimited data plan on my phone all but stopped it.

Don't need to dedicate 500+gb on my phone to my music if I can just pull up whatever I want. The only stuff I keep on my phone now is Dwelling of Duels and some game remixes.

[–] COOLSJ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Rutracker.org maybe. I find pretty much every music I want on it. Though i mostly listen mainstream so maybe it is easier to find it.

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