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The Motion Picture Association will work with Congress to start blocking piracy sites in the US (www.engadget.com)

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[-] n1ckn4m3@kbin.social 150 points 7 months ago

Instead of working to create a cost effective, quick method for users to buy (AND OWN, NOT LICENSE) digital movies, the MPAA is instead going to try and censor the internet. Brilliant move, idiots.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 19 points 7 months ago

own

There is nothing they want us to do less.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago

These are the people that sued a kid who broke DVD "drm" so he could play LEGAL movies he OWNED on a Linux machine since there was still licensing issues (i think that's the reason?) and no player. An be he didn't even live in the US.

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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 7 months ago

They're spoiled from selling you the same movies over and over again whenever a new medium becomes normalized, despite all your previous licenses. Then they complain when your media breaks or you want to share with your best friend.

They want your money for not doing anything new.

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[+] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 17 points 7 months ago

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[-] n1ckn4m3@kbin.social 20 points 7 months ago

I can own an ebook or an MP3, while some services license them many of them actually just sell you the media outright. Why are movies any different?

Otherwise, I agree, if we're (for some legitimate reason) forced into licensing instead of purchasing, the license needs to be perpetual and irrevocable.

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[-] ulkesh@beehaw.org 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Let's take that logic outward a step...

Stocks are digital these days. Cryptocurrency is digital. So you're basically saying those should be licensed to people, not owned.

Ownership has nothing to do with the tangibility of the thing in the age of the Internet. And to say otherwise is missing the point of ownership in the first place.

If I outright buy a movie, whether digital or not, I should own it -- be able to download it, play it whenever I want, in perpetuity. If I subscribe to a service such as Disney+, then I fully know that I am purchasing a license to view their content.

The logistics of providing such ownership is the cost of doing business, just like it is for Blu-ray. I would argue that ownership should be even easier, logistically, for digital goods because there is no actual manufacturing effort involved (aside from initial production of, say, a movie).

The only reason companies want to license digital goods, instead of providing ownership to those who buy it, is greed (edit: and control).

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[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

just sell me a fucking bluray without encryption and maybe i'll consider buying them for fucks sake.

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[-] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 135 points 7 months ago

What else will corporations pay Congress to decide that is in corporations' best interest for us to not see?

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 111 points 7 months ago

Its good to see congress focusing on the real issues finally. When I pay taxes, this is what I'm looking for. Hopefully they will get around to legalizing kicking homeless people and children in the face soon as this is another one of my priorities.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 7 months ago

Won't someone please think of the children...'s unkicked faces

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago

Thought about it and I don't like it. Motion carries. * slams gavel on homeless child's face *

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[-] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 7 months ago

As a disabled person I find I am not intentionally tripped anywhere near enough. I beseech Congress to act now before I become complacent in my verticality.

[-] Drewski@lemmy.sdf.org 78 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

He [MPAA CEO Charles Rivkin] added that almost 60 countries use site-blocking as a tool against piracy, "including leading democracies and many of America's closest allies." The only reason why the US isn't one of them, he continued, is the "lack of political will, paired with outdated understandings of what site-blocking actually is, how it functions, and who it affects."

No, you're the one who doesn't understand. We don't want censorship, and we have this thing called the 1st Amendment.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 35 points 7 months ago

MPAA is the organization that took 2600 to court over linking to DeCSS source code. All they understand is money and power and so far is worked really well. This is an organization that literally inserted itself into our society. Remove them, by force if necessary.

[-] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 19 points 7 months ago

Australia's version is a dns block. It only stops people who don't know how to google or change thier dns.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 71 points 7 months ago

VPNs are about to become a lot more commonplace.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 50 points 7 months ago

the growth has already been staggering since states starting requiring ID’s for pornhub. I’m glad tech literacy is increasing in the face of these recurring laws. Small silver lining I can latch on to lol

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[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 7 months ago

Or that will be their first target

[-] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I2P stumbles out of bar drunk, my timesss has come!

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[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 11 points 7 months ago

Not an easy target, since the technology/protocol is integral to many large businesses' infosec operations.

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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 62 points 7 months ago

land of the free

[-] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 7 months ago

Whoever told you that is your enemy

[-] pbjamm@beehaw.org 12 points 7 months ago

When that song came out it hit 19yr old me HARD. I am now 51 and it still does.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago

Land of the free market not free people 🤓

[-] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 21 points 7 months ago

Its not even a free market. Check the protectionism keeping Chinese EVs out of the US. Its more like the land of corporate profits.

[-] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

There's no such thing as a free market unless you're talking about places like Somolia where there is no government.

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[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 61 points 7 months ago

The least productive Congress since the Great Depression? The same Congress who couldn't pass a budget for the government until 6 months into the very fiscal year it's for? That Congress? Priorities.

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[-] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 7 months ago

Very common amerika L

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 42 points 7 months ago

A bunch of old white guys who literally don't understand the internet vs. the entire internet. Okie doke.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 18 points 7 months ago

The c-suite of the MPAA is surprisingly... diverse https://www.motionpictures.org/who-we-are/our-people/

The only colour the bourgeoisie care about is green.

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[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 7 months ago

We will need to use hidden networks like !i2p@lemmy.world

[-] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 7 months ago

Maybe this will get i2p out of beta...

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[-] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 36 points 7 months ago

Ill say it one more time: Selfhost your shit

[-] chalk46@fedia.io 27 points 7 months ago

and I'm sure they're paying them lots of money to do it because God forbid the rich assholes aren't rich enough 🙄

[-] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 20 points 7 months ago

Just hoping private torrent sites and Usenet remain relatively unscathed. Honestly I'm surprised about how many of the big private trackers have lasted so long.

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 7 months ago

They're not smart enough it figure out anything not mainstream. I heard most of the big sites blocked recently were live TV feed sites.

[-] card797@champserver.net 15 points 7 months ago

We'll make new sites! Fuckers.

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 months ago

Or hide our sites on hidden networks like !i2p@lemmy.world

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[-] snownyte@kbin.social 15 points 7 months ago

Curious, I checked out Chris Dodd and wonder what he's up to. He's a close advisor now to Biden so I'd imagine he's whispering in Biden's ear and whoever will listen, about how much of piracy is 'bad for ya'. In case anyone forgot, Chris Dodd was a major asshole during his 6 year stint (2011 - 2017) with MPAA and he ultimately failed in stopping piracy.

I don't think this latest tactic will work. Congress couldn't even understand Facebook and they couldn't even hold Mark Zuckerberg of all people, accountable for his shit. Congress, MPAA and all the forces in the world couldn't stop Kim Dotcom. MPAA, ACE and whatever, still cannot shut down The Pirate Bay.

They'll just keep bashing their heads on the brick wall. The only victories they've gotten in all of the 20+ year decade war on piracy, is that most times, the sites go down because of lack of funding and support. They only take down big sites because they've found weak links or they've found those run-a-mouth pirates who've gotta go around talking shit about pirating to the point where they're a liability then wonder why their favorite service/site is shut down.