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House Moves Toward Bundling TikTok Bill With Aid to Ukraine and Israel (www.nytimes.com)

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A new measure attempts to force the Senate’s hand on passing legislation to ban TikTok or mandate the app’s sale.

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[-] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 135 points 6 months ago

American politics really is one of the dumbest, most corrupt things out there. Good god.

This feels like trying to trick your dog into taking his medicine, by hiding it in its food. So apparently your average US Senator is as dumb as a Golden Retriever if they need this tactic to actually get shit done.

It’s insane that Americans still tolerate this. Clearly they don’t have your best interests as their main focus.

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 27 points 6 months ago

So many of us agree with you.

[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

None of the fuckers want to change the voting system either. They just blame the other guys.

Wish someone would take STV and everyone woukd follow

[-] FrostKing@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

It’s insane that Americans still tolerate this.

A consistent viewpoint I see on America, is the assumption that if we don't like a politician we can simply say so and they're out of office. One of the biggest problems here is actually that most people feel lacking in their personal control on the government, even local. Everything is such a large scale, that 'speaking up' not only feels like it does nothing—it really does nothing, unless you're famous or something. No one here is happy about how our government works, we just don't have control over it. It's an illusion of control, while the people at the top make the actual choices.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 99 points 6 months ago

WHY IS THIS STILL ALLOWED

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[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 59 points 6 months ago

Package a TikTok bill along with aid for Ukraine, Israel AND Taiwan? Even lumping the aid bills together for 3 different countries is odd but the hell does TikTok now have to do with any of it? This is a weird system you guys got there.

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 48 points 6 months ago

Bernie Sanders has been saying for 30 years that the bill is too damn long! Representatives get very limited time to read bills so they usually don't and just vote along party lines. This is a form of deception and it's intentional.

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

They're taking clues from Hungary. Our "child protection" (sic!) law bundled a pedophile registry (which is useless at best) alongside the censorship and de facto ban of sex education in schools, so Fidesz and Mi Hazánk (Fidesz satellite party which is a bit more honest about it being far-right) called the opposition pedo-defenders for not voting yes for it.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

It's not a system so much anymore. It's more of a death spasm.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago

Political compromise is the process of inventing and enforcing policies that both parties can hate.

[-] locuester@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago

Hahaha you should see our omnibus bills. They’re THOUSANDS of things bundled. It’s a complete joke.

Even this one will likely have little things unrelated added. It’s wild how much is in these bills.

[-] Buttons@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

the hell does TikTok now have to do with any of it?

Military spending bills will benefit the military industrial complex, and banning TikTok will benefit the military industrial complex.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

It sucks I know, but if it gets Ukraine aid passed, lump in everything together. That's the most important piece of legislation needed right now and we need it to pass.

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[-] Mazoku@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 months ago

Real shit, how can I bypass article paywalls/sign up requests? I click the link, paywall. I find an alternative link: paywall. The internet is so shit

[-] Mazoku@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

Also as much as I hate TikTok, and the amount of time people spend on it, I think the government starting to censor what applications we can and can’t use is a scary thing. Congressmen have already stated “As soon as the TikTok legislation takes effect, we are going after Facebook and the others”

Can’t remember which one said it but it was an interview on NPR with a congressman.

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

Welcome to capitalism, where the poor get poorer and so on and so forth :-)

Here's a copy. When the page has loaded, click on the Reader Mode in Firefox for clutter free reading : https://web.archive.org/web/20240418132447/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/17/technology/tiktok-ban-ukraine-israel-aid.html

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

I say this all the time, and people say: "impossible, news outlets need revenue". To which I will say that is entirely bullshit. We could easily afford grants for news, and provide continuing grants to news sources that rank the highest in 3rd party consumer evaluations.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 6 months ago

But they don't currently.

So if you read it you should pay for it, or someone else will.

[-] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago

Look into noscript (Firefox extension), seems to work well for my local papers website (they use some js to hide the page after it loads, noscript blocks scripts from running).

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

1ft.io and 12ft.io work for me most of the time.

https://1ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2024%2F04%2F17%2Ftechnology%2Ftiktok-ban-ukraine-israel-aid.html

Otherwise I try one of the archive sites like archive.today or archive.ph but they don't always work. I can't even get past the captcha most times.

[-] far_university1990@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago

If reader mode not work, there are some website: https://12ft.io, https://1ft.io, https://removepaywall.com, https://archive.ph

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 20 points 6 months ago

of course.

[-] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

We really need to ban adding unrelated things into one big bill.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh for fucks sake who did that?

or:

[-] autotldr 5 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Speaker Mike Johnson has indicated that he intends to package the measure, a modified version of a stand-alone bill that the House passed last month, with foreign aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.

The move “to package TikTok is definitely unusual, but it could succeed,” said Paul Gallant, a policy analyst for the financial services firm TD Cowen.

TikTok has said that the national security concerns are unfair and that it has spent more than $1 billion on a detailed plan for its U.S. operations that would wall off user data and offer third-party oversight of its content recommendations.

“It is unfortunate that the House of Representatives is using the cover of important foreign and humanitarian assistance to once again jam through a ban bill,” Alex Haurek, a spokesman for the company, said in a statement on Wednesday.

Last year, a federal judge temporarily blocked a statewide ban of TikTok from taking effect in Montana, preventing the nation’s first such prohibition.

Officials from the Department of Justice, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence briefed lawmakers in the House and Senate about their concerns, adding fuel to the effort to pass the bill.

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[-] 4vgj0e@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

"TikTok changed my life for the better" Jesus fuck

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago

Honestly did for me. I love TikTok, and it feels like the social media app with the best news and conversations. Seriously.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

I say this on Lemmy a lot and welcome the down votes. Although it seems more and more tame lately. I really think people are understanding the value of tiktok. I find out news on tiktok quicker than anywhere else, I don't ever trust the details, but the events are always actually happening and usually they even have a relatively factual take on it.

Also, if anyone hasn't tried out Donghua Jinlong food grade glycine, they really must.

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