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submitted 1 year ago by sculd@beehaw.org to c/gaming@beehaw.org

Another "always online" game that forces people to connect to internet while playing single player.

Even though most people do have internet access these days, it is still not a good development when you consider some places have less stable internet than others. And also what happens to the game when the server shuts down.

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[-] bermuda@beehaw.org 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not a payday person so I have no horse in this race, but this is still such utter horseshit. The more games that continue to do this where it is completely unnecessary, the further away the date is when devs stop doing this bullshit.

but I do believe you will have to have a connection in order to play cause it's made in the Unreal Engine, it's using cross-progression, crossplay, I do believe we need you to be online," said Listo.

this person should be a politician

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 14 points 1 year ago

Nothing. It is literally just word vomit + lying to shut people up about the issue because "it needs to happen."

That's why the politician comment hits. Word vomit + lies is their standard operating procedure.

[-] bermuda@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago
[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but I do believe you will have to have a connection in order to play cause it’s made in the Unreal Engine, it’s using cross-progression, crossplay, I do believe we need you to be online," said Listo.

I've been using Unreal Engine 4 since 2014 and in 2020 started using EOS which I've shipped on a game. This is bullshit. It's entirely bullshit that you don't need someone 10 years into the games industry with the relevant engine experience and relevant online subsystem experience to tell you it's bullshit. You already know it's bullshit. But here is a random expert opinion to definitively confirm it's bullshit.

The only thing they had to do is make it so you can store your progress locally until you connect to a server. I do that with my achievement system in an indie game I made for under 10,000 USD from my publisher. It's insane to think this is their excuse.

[-] Plume@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago

Well, fuck you and your shitty game then. Wasn't interested in the first place, but this kills any possibility of that ever changing.

[-] MavTheHack@lemmy.fmhy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Yup. I'm gonna wait for the crack then. Those usually enable offline play for obvious reasons

[-] Hdcase@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

This game went from a "maybe" to a "never" for me. Great job, Overkill.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Isn't this essentially a four player on-line co-op game anyway? Is there anything to even do in it single player?

[-] bermuda@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

...you can play it with bots? That's kind of how any 4 player co-op game works lol. I don't remember Left 4 Dead 2 being online only when I wanted to play by myself. Payday 2 already has a whole community of people who play the game by themselves. In fact I believe you can even disable the bots and do the whole maps solo.

[-] TheOakTree@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

You can play with 3 AI heisters, or you can go in solo.

Source: I spent a lot of time figuring out routing for solo stealth heists back when PD2 was more popular.

[-] Hellebert@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So too do far too many other games.

Usually because they want to sell you cosmetics and other junk and the only way to ensure you don't just mod it in for free is to make the game phone home and verify itself constantly.

[-] gk99@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Whatever, PAYDAY 2 was already going to be the better game at launch, might as well make it the only one worth playing at all.

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