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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by NemoWuMing@lemmy.world to c/guitars@lemmy.world

I study guitar as a hobby. When I practice, I often play a little ahead of the metronome click. I can see it when I record myself with GarageBand.

I have been trying to adjust, but can't seem to progress.

Is there a metronome app that would give me a strong visual clue when I am not exactly on the beat?

  • Edit for clarification: I am looking for an app that will call me out in real-time, either visually or audibly, whenever I play offbeat.

Why am I bothering with this?

I have heard musicians talking about making the metronome sound disappear by playing at the exact right time. I also noticed some people frowning when I play a split second before the click. Is it worth improving that aspect? Is there a better way to do it?

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Get yourself an actual metronome, a mechanical one. That has a strong visual indicator.

[-] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Those look great. I'm hoping to find an app that would call me out whenever I'm off the beat, because I don't notice it as I play, but I can see it in the recording, when I look at the GarageBand track.

[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago

I think your best course of action is to just keep playing to the click. You're always going to be wavering in time around the beat. Its not possible to play like a robot.

Progress might take longer than you'd expect. Just stay the course and enjoy the instrument more than anything. The fact that you care about being in time is a win.

[-] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

6 months ago, you offered this advice. I followed it (as well as other suggestions in these comments, and it has helped a lot. You were right, it did take longer than expected. Thank you!

[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Hey! Thanks for following up! I'm thrilled that you were able to make progress! Keep it up! Cheers, friend.

[-] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I will continue. I wish there was something that would call me out in real-time whenever I am rushing the beat, either visually or audibly.

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I don't know of an app for that, but it is worth improving. If you can't find an app that does what you want, try simplifying what you're doing until you know you're locked in with the metronome. Just simple strumming on every click and nothing else. Even eliminate the guitar entirely if you have to and tap on your desk or something. Then gradually add complexity back in while making sure you're locked in at every step.

There's also an exercise I remember Victor Wooten talking about where he would have a click track or something to that effect that would cut out for a measure every once in a while. The idea is that if your timing is good enough, you'll be on the beat when the click comes back in. You could set up something like that in Garage Band. Make the gap small at first and then gradually increase it.

[-] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

6 months ago, you offered this advice about playing to a beat that cuts off and comes back on.. I followed it (as well as other suggestions in these comments, and it has helped a lot. I used the training metronome from Justin Guitar. Thank you!

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Awesome! Happy to hear it helped.

[-] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I will try tapping my fingers. I wish there was some app that would call me out in real-time whenever I am rushing the beat, either visually or audibly.

[-] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

Based on what you said, you might have some kind of input latency, so even if you played perfectly you would never align to the metronome. If you think you nailed some notes and they are still off in the recording, that's a sign. Check your DAW's input settings for buffer length options.

Playing tight but not perfectly can be desirable too (may vary by genre) - it adds "humanization".

[-] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Thanks, I will double check on that if I can figure out how to do it lol, in the meantime I will tap my fingers to a metronome on my phone

[-] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago

A mechanical metronome will help with a visual indicator, but this smells like a classic XY problem to me. Your issue isn't that you need a visually distinctive metronome, it's that you are rushing the beat and need to break that habit.

Sadly, a metronome can only get you halfway in that endeavor. The real fix will be to practice with other musicians who can call you out on it in real-time. It is embarrassing, it is time-consuming, and it isn't fun, but it WILL break you of the habit and force you to play better. And make sure they call you out on it immediately. As in you do not get to continue the song once it is noticed, and you must start over like dying in a video game.

[-] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

6 months ago, you offered this advice. I followed it (as well as other suggestions in these comments, and it has helped a lot. I did indeed need to break the habit of rushing the beat. Thank you!

[-] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I hear you. I'm looking for an app that would call me out on it, either visually or audibly, whenever I play offbeat, because musicians are rarely available when I practice.

[-] Komatik@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Download pro metronom on the google play store, its a great metronome and I highly recommend it. But this won't fix your problem alone. I play CG and learned that we humans have a built in metronom the only thing you need to do is when in 4/4 speak 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 1 & ... So on on the beat of the metronom loudly. Now when you can do that start playing slowly.

Start slow and bump the beat ever so slightly to increase speed over time. Be aware that it might take weeks before reaching your desired speed depending on your skill and complexity of the score. But if you count out loud as I said you will have no problem of attaining the correct ritme.

[-] ElJefe@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Pro Metronome is a great tool. I’ve had it for years and it sure is worth the few bucks it cost.

[-] sprack@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Use a DAW (digital audio workstation) app to record yourself playing. When you set the tempo it will create bars for the subdivisions. You can match that to the audio spike that indicates the notes peak. When recording music this is the method used to ensure the music is keeping tempo and the audio engineer may shift the audio stream to fix mistakes during recording.

GarageBand, Ardour and Reaper are all free DAWs.

[-] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

6 months ago, you offered this advice about using GarageBand to record myself. I followed it (as well as other suggestions in these comments, and it has helped a lot. Thank you!

[-] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I use GarageBand now. I'm looking for something that would call me out in real-time whenever I am rushing the beat, either visually or audibly.

[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

I see a lot of "rhythm trainer" apps, but as far as I can tell they all require tapping the screen, they don't listen as you play. But, maybe the tapping exercise will be helpful. Possibly the Perfect Ear one does it? Can't tell from the description.

[-] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I installed Perfect Ear and it does require me to tap on the screen. It did confirm that I am rushing the beat. I will keep using it for a while. Thanks for pointing it out

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