In the privacy section of the App Store it shows Threads basically collecting all data on your phone. So I guess standard Meta practice.
Surprised they didn’t list soul in the list of things collected
Why would I join a worse version of facebook?
Perfect, another app I've been desperately waiting for to never ever use.
Another Service that will end up in the DSN blacklist...
Is this the federation killer?
Do you want to go from one corporate social media option to another corporate social media option? Then for you, maybe it is!
It uses ActivityPub, so it's not gaining you anything over other options. I'm quite happy to never interact with them.
ActivityPub, so it's not gaining you anything over other options.
Not quite. The usual next step for meta would be to enhance ActivityPub so there's a better UX. Then it attracts more users and open ActivityPub will be a nieche thing again.
Whether Lemmy devs like it or not, they are in a competition with huge companies.
If we all just defederate with them upon arrival, it seems it stunts their ability to do that. Some users will go to their platform, sure - but if we don't allow them to piggyback off of our content and engagement, effectively segregating their community away from ours, influence will be minimal, in theory.
Obviously some users will go to their platform, but really, that's fine. We don't need to interact with the entire internet.
Sounds good, but only in theory.
I think you almost comically underestimate Metas power to bring eyeballs and therefor content to a platform. In due time the vast majority of Activity Pub „stuff“ will happen under Metas regime. The initial services such as Mastodon or Lemmy will merely be a blip on the radar. Sure, they will continue to exist, but the mass adoption and the network effects that come with it will be under Metas claim on the fediverse. And then it’s „embrace, extend, extinguish“ again (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish).
If a majority of instances defederate from them at the start, meta won’t have the ability to Embrace, Extend, Extinguish in a meaningful way because meta wasn’t embraced back in the first place.
According to Fediverse Observer the fediverse currently has 1.8 million monthly active users (src). Instagram in the meantime has 1.44 billion monthly active users (src).
Lets be generous and use the 12 million total user accounts for the fediverse, not the IMHO more relevant active users. Lets then be very conservative and say that only 1% of all Instagram users will try the new Activity Pub based service Threads. By this estimate the Meta-share of the fediverse will bigger then the whole accumulated userbase so far with 14.4 million users. I think that the 1% is quite conservative, given the marketing might that Meta has.
This means that from the start there will be a "second" fediverse - even if completely defederated from the existing one - with people sharing links, writing comments & thoughts and posting pictures. So there is a potential question to be asked - who is defederating from whom here content-wise?
Secondly I think EEE can also aim at "just" the featureset and technicalities. Safe to assume that Meta has more paid engineers and designers on staff then lets say Lemmy (or Mastodon). Those teams will implement features that the users want, that make their life more convenient. Features that take the currently existing "nerdy overhead" out of the fediverse. All the OS services in the fediverse are then under pressure to either adopt or die.
So yeah, capitalism does what capitalism does, making things marketable. Written wearing my Che shirt.
I could see this actually gaining popularity from their Instagram user base. Twitter doesn't attract younger people or influencers. It'll be like discovering Facebook for gen z, where they can also share text posts. Maybe that'll attract the people who left Twitter for turning alt-right. If it gets big enough, public figures could even leave Twitter. I'd be shocked if that happened, but a gal can hope.
This isn't something I have any interest and I hate meta as much as anyone else here, but I'm interested in seeing how it will play out. If we can't escape capitalism, at least we can watch it as a social experiment.
I don't think young people are attracted to text-based social media
They might become interested once they have a platform that targets them. I know it's a little different from people who jumped on to MySpace or early Facebook because we started with text posts, not really pictures. It's still true that younger people love to post their thoughts or opinions thinking that others care as much as they do.
It could also be a good tool for "celebrities" to directly interact with their followers. Instagram's interface isn't really set up for that.
anything to see twitter die
But i also want to see meta die
May they each take enough users from the other that neither is viable. And may the rest of us carry on independently.
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