145
all 15 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] omgarm@feddit.nl 52 points 1 year ago

From a European perspective it's crazy to read this. It feels like reading about an evil government rising to power in some young adult novel.

Texas is soon equivalent to Saudi Arabia. I don't want to go there for any reason.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly? As an American I find this positively insane.

Not just because it’s insane… but also they think it can be enforced.

Keep in mind this is the state that seceded from Mexico because they wanted to keep their slaves, failed as their own nation…. Joined the us and then seceded again because they got told no slaves again.

[-] darq@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

It's not even important if it can actually be enforced. Just the spectre of it maybe being enforced is enough to change people's behaviour.

This whole "letting the citizens sue other citizens" loophole that the Rs have started to use as a means to circumvent proper lawmaking processes has to be closed.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not a legal issue, it's just propaganda and fear mongering masked as a legal issue to create confusion.

Anybody can sue anybody for anything. That's a fact you can't and don't want to change.

These "laws" would not stand up in court. They don't actually want anybody to sue for this because the first case that gets thrown out or ruled against will show that.

But until that happens it's a cheap way to scare people.

[-] TheBucklessProphet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem isn’t that anyone can sue anyone, the problem is that these laws give legal standing for anyone to sue anyone. Normal lawsuits have to pass a certain bar to establish legal standing, and if you don’t pass that bar your case gets thrown out. These laws essentially skip that part by giving blanket legal standing. I don’t know if that would stand up in a higher court, but it’s a dangerous precedent that they’re establishing.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl -1 points 1 year ago

You don't need express "legal standing" to sue. At most it might prevent the odd case from being summarily thrown out and prolong the inevitable. Like I said, from a legal standpoint this is mostly irrelevant, It's pure posturing – "someone could sue you" – which was already true. It changes nothing.

[-] eee@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah soon a Handmaid's Tale is going to be a documentary.

[-] Apex_Fail@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

As a Texan it is really sad to see this shit happening. The state used to be all about personal freedoms and staying the fuck out of your personal life, but the political theater has just been "own the libs" for the last decade.

FFS the clowns in charge just tried to pass a law that would neuter the larger metropolitan areas' ability to pass their own legislation because even gerrymandering the high hell out of the state we are still turning purple. Unfortunately, the state is held hostage by rural communities who are afraid of melanin and think Jesus was too "woke".

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

I seem to remember lots and lots of gaslighting Republican lying LIARS claiming it was hysterical and ridiculous and you name it to talk about Gilead States or compare the Republicans' vision of America to the other dystopias like Idiocracy or the Rapture of the Nerds...

And now this. So much for "liberty" and "freedom". If you have a womb and don't want to uphold the Republican plan for you...

[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. The implicit unironic Republican motto.

Especially in Texas, somehow the proliferation of machines of war makes society safer. Somehow policies that put women through absurd amounts of harm and kill them is "pro-life". And, somehow, ignoring or actively opposing experts and "doing your own research" makes you a free and critical thinker.

[-] qantravon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I had multiple people tell me when Hobbs was decit that "it will be fine, they can just travel out of state"...

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

These laws seem ripe for exploitation by contrarian little shits who hate this bullshit and have nothing to lose if they get sued. Amtrak is in Texas – does it count if you're driving them to the station? What if you go off-road? Plus, if I get in my car with someone, what's to stop me and my abortion-seeking friend from driving through the town without stopping? How would anyone have cause to suspect me? If I get pulled over somehow, then this law can't apply, right? It's specifically private citizens.

Since it relies on people suing you, I feel like it leaves a lot of avenues open for someone with the right resources to fight in court.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 16 points 1 year ago

Like the article says, this law is not about standing up in court, it's about "sending a signal" and spreading fear and confusion.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

While the term “trafficking” typically refers to people who are forced, tricked or coerced, Dickson’s definition applies to all people seeking abortions

We need to stop letting these assholes set the narrative. Nobody should ever use his made up definition.

this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2023
145 points (99.3% liked)

politics

19089 readers
3863 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS