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The Tesla Model 3 dropped from first place to third, behind the Toyota Camry and the Honda Civic, among all passenger cars sold.

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 244 points 6 months ago

They're not "getting revenge" for him leaving California, they've stopped buying cars of dubious quality from an immature, arrogant, and very literal white nationalist.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 88 points 6 months ago

Yes, to me Tesla switched from the most desirable car to the least desirable one, exactly because he turned out to be a cunt.

Also in California I see more interest in other electric cars. There are tons of Teslas, but pretty much all new EVs (with temporary license plates) seem to be different brands.

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

My current ICE may be due for replacement after over a decade of use.

I want an EV with NACS that isn't a Tesla. And so I wait. I don't need anything complicated, but I don't want to own a car with the "wrong" kind of port.

Edit: Or they could layoff the entire Super Charger team at a time the build out is most necessary and leave things super uncertain.

To car manufacturers: don't trust Musk. I don't have strong feelings about which connector "wins," I just don't want to be using the one no one else does. And that depresses the value of the car.

[-] Dianoga@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

You have exactly summed up my views. I currently have a 2020 MY and it convinced me that I probably won't buy another ICE vehicle. With all the crap coming out of Tesla and Musk lately, I also can't imagine getting another Tesla.

I'm just waiting for NACS to be built in and hoping today's layoff news doesn't ruin that as well...

[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 3 points 6 months ago

Pretty sure you can get an NACS adapter now, but otherwise non Tesla vehicles pre-equiped with a NACS port are due to arrive next year.

[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

You will always have the “wrong” kind of port for the life of the car. If you have NACS you need J1772 adapter to charge at some places. If you have CCS you need NACS adapter to charge at Tesla Superchargers. As someone that has both Tesla and Rivian, it’s not a big deal to put an adapter in your trunk and use it when you need it and you need an adapter for both cars. It. Doesn’t. Matter.

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

It. Doesn’t. Matter.

Yet. Eventually a USB-C will emerge. Then only logitech (backward OEMs) won't support it.

[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Yet.

Which is why I specifically said “for the life of the car”. Every car will need an adapter for at least the next decade.

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Oof. You think it will take that long? Very honest question.

If that's how long it takes, I'll be very sad. You may be right but that bums me out.

[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Cheaper to build new chargers at new locations than retrofit old ones. You’re already seeing that. So you can choose to have the “default” connector but not have access to all chargers or simply carry an adapter that gives you access to all chargers. Why the hold out against an adapter that costs a fraction of the car? Seriously self defeating attitude.

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

My car runs and I use it infrequently. Hell, I use it so the battery doesn't die. No lie. Where I like is imminently walkable.

So I don't need to rush into anything. That's not self-defeating; it's just realism.

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[-] Veraxus@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Also Californian, and I’ve seen Rivian’s presence exploding here in the LA area. If I needed to buy a new car today, Rivian is what I’d get.

Personally, though, I’m holding out for Aptera. The practicality of their dedication to extreme efficiency is just off the charts.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Adding to this, their reputation has really suffered because of widespread quality problems and the fact that they marketed level 2 automation as “Full Self Driving” is now well understood to be deceptive and potentially homicidal.

And anecdotally, Tesla owners drive like entitled pricks. They are, I would say, worse than BMW drivers but not quite as bad as Mercedes drivers. No one is as bad as Mercedes drivers.

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago

Plus there's better cars.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Yeah it’s not the status symbol it used to be.

[-] machinin@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Yeah, might as well put a KKK bumper sticker on the thing.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Haha a little extreme. Thinking about it, I’ve never seen a blue lives matter or Trump sticker on a Tesla so I don’t associate with the KKK type crowd. Lots of trucks tho.

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

Yeah it's funny how these rich babies frame it as being attacked when it's literally people responding with their money to the immature shitfest.

Not spending money on an asshole isn't revenge, it's people making an educated fiscal choice

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 70 points 6 months ago

Off topic but I'm always amazed how many of the posts in the Fediverse are about Elon Musk. People are obsessed with this cunt.

[-] ConfusedPossum@kbin.social 55 points 6 months ago

Well I mean he's interesting as a case study, his decisions have real world implications and it seems like he's on a path to a meltdown that many people would love to witness in real time

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

He’s a modern Howard Hughes, and there’s a reason we know that name

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

It used to be fun to disabuse others of the Tony Stark facade. It's not as rewarding these days, now that everyone knows he'd grab a monkey by the tit

[-] saddlebag@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

I suspect there’s a disproportionately high number of users on the fediverse because of this decisions with X

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago
[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

He has certainly figured out how to be everywhere. Those who find him unlikable love talking about him just like his fans.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 8 points 6 months ago

I'd like to filter him out, but writers can't seem to stop writing "Elon Musks SpaceX" as if we had to be reminded every time who owns the thing. Imagine every time we talk about Apple we put Tim Cook in front of it

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

A lot of people once upon a time trully believed the guy, so there's a lot who ended up feeling as having been swindled as they figured out more about the man and how most of his promises and his portrayals of the products of his investments were scam-artist bullshit, and that's a pretty strong feeling that transcends mere dislike.

Then there was a stage when only the most rabid fanboys still believed the guy and, man, those are infuriating usefull idiots with a cult-like view and fast and rabid at coming to defense of the guy. Those types along with TSLA small investors desperately pumping their stock like it was some kind of Muskcoin, did a lot more to turn Musk dislike into hate of him and his companies than they did to make people like and trust the man and his businesses.

And then as the cherry on top of the cake, came his coming out of the closet as a far-right nutter.

So it's kinda understandable that many don't just merelly dislike Elon Musk, they detest him, detest his cult members, detest the greed assholes pumping Musk-shit-stocks and thus genuinelly enjoy seeing the cunt directly or indirectly get shafted.

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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 53 points 6 months ago

Tesla makes unsafe, garbage vehicles.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

And markets them in a way that makes them even more unsafe to other people in their vicinity.

[-] havocpants@lemm.ee 50 points 6 months ago

If I were on Tesla's board, I would be doing my best to get Elon the hell away from the brand.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The problem is that he placed people who are loyal to him on that board a long time ago. That's how he took control over Tesla and kicked out its original founders to begin with.

[-] bashbeerbash@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Tesla's 'board' is like his brother, his mom and Peter Thiel. World is governed by vain, fragile, egomaniacs

[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

They should have done that a year ago when he bought Twitter. Now it’s too late - the momentum of Tesla’s demise will not be stopped even if they get rid of Musk.

[-] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Even if Tesla somehow managed to de-Elon themselves and address the quality issues, those cars look so dated compared to other EVs that are available and what's coming soon.

They gave the model 3 a facelift but they really need a major bodystyle update across the whole line. Nothing in the entire line looks much different than the 2009 prototype model S.

They went from being futuristic to boring as fuck.

Edit: Except for the truck, of course. But that's just something else entirely and I don't feel like writing an essay.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Yeah I get the whole “no model year” thing to a degree. It’s exactly the sort of shit you’d think of as disruptive if you were him. But there’s a reason the auto industry does it. It’s convenient to put in minor changes once a year and major changes every five or so. It keeps the car modern, new, and easy to figure out what parts you need. You just know the model year of your car because it’s regularly convenient to know

[-] exanime@lemmy.today 14 points 6 months ago

Not to defend Musk here but tinkering for the sake of saying you make a change is exactly the kind of consumerism junk we should avoid

There wouldn't be a problem with year and part numbers if they didn't arbitrarily changed it just to be able to market the "all new" cuz

I have a Prius and it's a pita for parts because some refer to it by year, some by generation, some by trim (even if the part has nothing to do with the trim, etc)

I would love to just be able to say Prius gen 4 and be done

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

Before, it was pretty much just Tesla. Now the market has more choices. They’re not dumping Tesla, they just have options now.

[-] machinin@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

They are also dumping Tesla.

[-] apocalypticat@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

With that despicable personality, and a face that looks more and more like a blob fish removed from the ocean depths, this guy proves on a daily basis that money can't buy everything.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago
[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 16 points 6 months ago

I guess "shopping local" actually still has meaning.

[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

He just laid off the entire supercharger team and I think the car design team lol.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

It's too late now... they had the chance to make a better choice before they bought something with this parasite's stink all over it.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Paywalled, but if that was for q1 the model 3 was ramping up the highland model. The numbers from q1 are meaningless.

Edit: someone posted a non paywalled version and it is q1. So ya, it's meaningless.

Edit: it'd actually be better to see how the Model Y did in Q1 as a litmus test.

Edit: Reuters reports model Y best selling vehicle in California in Q1

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/teslas-california-registrations-down-second-190357281.html?guccounter=1

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