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submitted 1 year ago by Kurt@lemmy.one to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Is there a way to shop around for a Lemmy instance based on how many instances are blocking it and how many instances it's blocking? For example, I noticed that the lemmygrad.ml instance is relatively popular, but it seems like a lot of other instances block it. It also blocks a bunch of other instances. So, if there are any communities on there that might be relevant to me then I would be missing out. I guess I could just create an account on a walled instance, but I would prefer not to keep creating accounts. I'd like to just find one instance that maximizes my access. Is the answer to just run my own instance?

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[-] 7eter@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

U might want to take a look at the federation map. It might be a bit overwhelming but in the settings on the bottom left you may chose blocked and allowed in order to get some insights on who federates with whom.

[-] Kurt@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Oh wow what did lemmygrad.ml do?

[-] rrpeak@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I hate linking you to reddit but this post came to mind Choosing an instance; and my issues with lemmygrad

[-] Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

They're just generally annoying. They're tankies, constantly praising Putin and the CCP.

[-] thevoyage@no.lastname.nz 1 points 1 year ago

Basically sums it up really, although it's great fun to drop in and stir up shit every so often.

They're completely off the deep end though.

[-] fluffman86@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

@rrpeak@feddit.de linked one reddit post while I was searching for this one, so here it is anyway:

https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/13zl7s1/fediversetips_i_do_not_recommend_lemmy_i_have/

And here's the OG mastodon post from fedi.tips:

https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379

Make sure to "Show More" on each post in the thread, including the replies. I thought it was all spamming the same post for a minute, lol.

[-] salarua@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some folks think that defederation is a bad thing. OK.

Here's a little experiment you can try at home.

  1. Stop using GMail, Hey, or whatever email service you're currently using.
  2. Set up your own mail server (there's instructions on the internet).
  3. When the instructions say to use a Remote Black List just ignore them.
  4. When the instructions say to validate domains, ignore those too.
  5. When the instructions say to set up SPF, DKIM, and DMARC just let those slide.
  6. Try to send / receive email
  7. Also try to read your inbox. For added benefit turn on all notifications for received mail.

Voila. Now you have an unfettered email experience.

And this, class, is why defederation is useful.

Please send your comments to the overworked TA in the back of the room.

โ€” Craig Maloney

[-] Kurt@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Is running your own Lemmy instance as difficult as an email server?

[-] salarua@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

probably not, but you'd get the same amount of horrible stuff as you'd get if you turned off all the security precautions on an email server. the point i'm making here by quoting Maloney is that blocking is a security precaution. less is more, and by joining an instance that doesn't block anyone, you're exposing yourself to a lot of terrible stuff. besides, instances that don't block get blocked themselves, so horrible stuff would be all you'd see

[-] zkikiz@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: apparently lemmygrad is much worse than I realized

The only caveat I have to this is that being communist shouldn't be an automatic block. Lemmy.ml doesn't block lemmygrad and I see no reason why it should, the posts I see are like "wow capitalism is fucking us up" not like "Tiananmen did nothing wrong and let's repeat it x1000" so it really doesn't seem comparable to proactively blocking Nazis. If you block "both sides" of a violent conflict like, say, the war in Ukraine, you've suddenly blocked everyone with a useful opinion.

[-] salarua@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

Lemmygrad isn't blocked because of their views, it's blocked because it's a massive troll farm. the posts that you see don't include the replies they make to posts which they deem not communist enough, where they sealion and argue in bad faith until the op is driven out

[-] RedMarsRepublic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

And that doesn't apply to liberals and every other ideology on this site? Every person has a political view which affects their opinions

[-] salarua@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

if a liberal/anarchist/not-ML instance popped up and started behaving like Lemmygrad does, they'd get mass-defederated too. like i said, it's not their views they got defederated for, it's their behavior

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