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[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 105 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure being able to get away with breaking laws much more easily than most really makes one "lawful"

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

You know how in Skyrim if a guard catches you breaking the law, you can just give him gold and he’ll fuck off and let you keep stealing?

It’s lawful like that.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

So in other words, neutral evil. He'll exploit the law to further his selfish goals like the rest of them, but he also has zero hesitation to ignore the law when that suits him better, which precludes any "lawful" alignment.

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[-] woodgen@lemm.ee 82 points 1 year ago

Musk and Trump are chaotic evil.

[-] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 1 year ago
[-] NAM@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Chaotic feels more appropriate, since they're only really predictable if you try and think of the absolute dumbest possible thing they could say or do at any given moment.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago

Hey. Trump probably isn't really a billionaire and has managed to get charged for crimes even though his former job made him legally above the law. I don't think lawful evil is the correct alignment.

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

More like chaotic moron

[-] wombatula@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Definitely Chaotic Evil, have you ever read his 3am rage tweets?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Nah, he's textbook neutral evil. He'll sometimes break the law to his advantage and sometimes exploit the law to his advantage. He doesn't give a fuck either way.

[-] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 73 points 1 year ago

You think these folks are lawful evil? Trump has 90 some indictments against him.

[-] paholg@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago

He's definitely not lawful, but I'm also not sure he belongs on a billionaire chart.

[-] Sporrik@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Lawful != Following the law of the land Lawful means your justification for your actions is within the bounds of a strict personal code or creed.

[-] root_beer@midwest.social 23 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and Trump doesn’t seem to have one of those either. But I chalk that up to the brain worms more than anything else.

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[-] Malgas@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

Obligatory: 'lawful' alignment doesn't necessarily entail not committing crimes, only adherence to some sort of code.

But yes, Trump doesn't do that, either.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 57 points 1 year ago

Yea gonna go ahead and say at least 6 of these scumbags are unlawful evils.

[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago

Lawful implies that they respect the laws...

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Maybe in this case Lawful implies that they buy the laws?

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Actually, I'm pretty sure Trump, being the eternal narcissist who thinks of himself being above the rules as a given, would be Neutral Evil. He wants to assert his selfish will on society IN SPITE OF the law as often as by USING the law.

The others are accurate, though.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago

Elon is definitely Chaotic Evil now.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Nah, I'm pretty sure that he's still lawful evil. Just because the rules are getting more nonsensical and arbitrary doesn't mean that he's no longer committing evil using rules and regulations like a true lawful evil villain.

I don't know if you're one of them, but a lot of people think that chaotic evil is inherently more evil than neutral or lawful evil. It's not. It's just a different flavor of malevolence 🤷

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago

Trumpy is only is a billionaire in his dreams

[-] gencha@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago
[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

If you only use his own words as a source, yes.

[-] chellewalker@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 year ago

Does "Lawful" apply here when they're buying politicians to change those laws for them?

[-] nickhammes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Lawful doesn't necessarily mean following the laws of a state, but adherence to order and hierarchy. Buying politicians to bureaucratically stack the deck in one's favor is compatible with lawful evil, for someone upholding a hierarchy in which they're (supposed to be) on top.

If it's more driven by greed than ideology, it's probably more neutral evil.

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[-] ipha@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

They're lawful only because they write the laws.

[-] VubDapple@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Musk was bald but too vain to wear it well.

[-] giantfloppycock@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Awful* Evil

[-] RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

I dunno, I think Elon leans Chaotic.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Chaotic stupid. Definitely a murderhobo if I ever saw one

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[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

Might be switching Trump to unlawful evil in a few months here.also might be dropping him from the list entirely

[-] rsaeshalm@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 1 year ago
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[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Are you still a billionaire if there's a minus sign in front of your net worth?

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