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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by ihatelinux@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I can understand why all the other things would be listed here, and I would understand if sexuality in general was considered inappropriate for children, but why homosexuality in particular? This is strange to me.

<content_rating type="oars-1.1">
  <content_attribute id="violence-cartoon">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="violence-fantasy">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="violence-realistic">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="violence-bloodshed">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="violence-sexual">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="violence-desecration">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="violence-slavery">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="violence-worship">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="drugs-alcohol">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="drugs-narcotics">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="drugs-tobacco">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="sex-nudity">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="sex-themes">none</content_attribute>

  <!-- this line here -->
  <content_attribute id="sex-homosexuality">none</content_attribute>

  <content_attribute id="sex-prostitution">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="sex-adultery">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="sex-appearance">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="language-profanity">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="language-humor">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="language-discrimination">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="social-chat">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="social-info">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="social-audio">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="social-location">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="social-contacts">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="money-purchasing">none</content_attribute>
  <content_attribute id="money-gambling">none</content_attribute>
</content_rating>

EDIT: as one commenter pointed out, an explanation can be found in a commit on the git repo and the tag has been removed.

Rationale
***

Certain attributes in the specification require some explanation as to why they
are present. This list is not exhaustive and may be added to in future.

 * `sex-homosexuality`: As of 2020,
   [various countries](https://www.humandignitytrust.org/lgbt-the-law/map-of-criminalisation/)
   have laws which criminalise lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT)
   people. In order for software and content to be distributed in those
   countries without breaking the law, and possible reprisal, it is necessary to
   be able to tag software and content which contains LGBT references, so that
   it can be hidden in those countries.
   However, in other countries (for example, the EU), discrimination laws
   explicitly prohibit discrimination on the basis of gender or sexuality. So
   while LGBT tagging may be available in OARS data, consumers of that data must
   only apply it in countries where the law requires that.

It is still strange to me that anyone would add this tag to an age ratings service, if it is a legal issue and not related to age appropriacy. Anyway, thanks for all the answers (except for those who failed to stay civil and/or brought up american politics for no reason).

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[-] 520@kbin.social 61 points 6 months ago

Because by law in certain countries, homosexuality is persona non grata, and a filter needs to be there to legally operate in such countries.

[-] ihatelinux@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thank you for actually providing an answer to the question, without insulting anyone.

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[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 46 points 6 months ago

They should have one for heterosexuality, too, if it's all about tastes.

[-] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

No kidding. So sick of hearing about those people 😙

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 43 points 6 months ago

Because some people want to filter it out. So it gets a label.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 months ago

Or filter it in

[-] CapillaryUpgrade@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 6 months ago

Oh how sweet is the irony of the bigots in this thread, who thinks the tag is there to "free" from them from seeing gay people holding hands and kissing, when it's actually there because bigots have outlawed being gay some places.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 6 months ago

Because some bigots want to filter it out.

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[-] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Note that in oars git repo itself a lot of tags were removed because of idiots calling it "problematic" https://github.com/hughsie/oars/commit/bbb10186cbecb49252610e5604ed025df8f4c8b7

the actual gitrepo explained why it's neccessary, not wanted

* `sex-homosexuality`: As of 2020,
   [various countries](https://www.humandignitytrust.org/lgbt-the-law/map-of-criminalisation/)
   have laws which criminalise lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT)
   people. In order for software and content to be distributed in those
   countries without breaking the law, and possible reprisal, it is necessary to
   be able to tag software and content which contains LGBT references, so that
   it can be hidden in those countries.
   However, in other countries (for example, the EU), discrimination laws
   explicitly prohibit discrimination on the basis of gender or sexuality. So
   while LGBT tagging may be available in OARS data, consumers of that data must
   only apply it in countries where the law requires that.
[-] triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 months ago

commit message

I'm --><-- close to just deleting OARS completely

Don't threaten us with a good time Hughsie

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[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago

All of these represent various social mores. I'd have no problem with my kids seeing content involving fantasy violence, but I respect that others might object. As a bisexual myself, I have less respect for those who object to their kids seeing homosexuality specifically, but I can tolerate their existence.

For fairness' sake, I wouldn't mind it if heterosexuality were on the list too.

[-] Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago

I think things got lost in translation here. We're not talking about explicit/pornographic content here. There are other tags that cover that. This, however, indicates sexual orientation in general which covers any display of affection that characterizes same gender couples, including kissing, holding hands or be explicitly in a relationship, which is no less appropriate for kids than straight smooching.

Hope that helps

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes that was clear to me. I was saying that, while I don't find same-sex content objectionable (indeed it makes me happy to see this kind of representation on screen), and I personally think it's something children should be exposed to, many people would disagree. Just like other tags on here which I think children shouldn't be exposed to at a young age but others wouldn't mind. Relative morality.

Politically speaking, I would be happier if those who oppose same-sex relationships were to change their minds. They pose a threat to my life. But FOSS is for everyone, even people I disagree with.

[-] Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago

Oh yeah, absolutely. It, unfortunately, a reality.

To mine as well, I'm with you on that one.

[-] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 16 points 6 months ago

To be honest I'm more concerned by language-humor. Like not even saying what kind of humour, just any type of humour at all. Jokes are for adults only!

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 15 points 6 months ago

As another user mentioned, I'd suspect because gay is still a death scentence and/or a criminal charge in some places, those would insist anything gay must me filtered ?

[-] DaGeek247@fedia.io 8 points 6 months ago

From their website;

OARS relies on honest answers from upstream projects and is purely informational.

Gotta admit, despite being bi, i still avoid most m/m stories on the amateur writing sites i follow. Shit gets weird fast.

[-] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

I pretty much always just avoid m/m media (except for the... obvious genres) regardless of where it's pretty much all trash, there are some good ones, but there is so much garbage it completely drowns out everything else

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