Still trapped on Baltimore ship, months after bridge collapse (www.bbc.com)

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Morale is low for the Dali's crew members, stranded on board by ongoing investigation into tragedy.

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[+] downpunxx@fedia.io 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[+] MrPibb@lemmynsfw.com -34 points 6 months ago

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[-] FollyDolly@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago

As far as I know, the crew did everything correctly, including alerting authorities to shut down traffic to the bridge. The one at fault here is the owner of the ship, who was deliberately forgoing repairs to squeeze out as much profit as possible.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 15 points 6 months ago

capitalism wins again

[-] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Well, everything except going on strike and refusing to set sail until the ship was maintained properly, at least...

[-] livus@kbin.social 38 points 6 months ago

Bit of a weird take. The ship had faulty equipment and the crew did what it could to try to avert the disaster.

The ship's owners are who you should blame.

[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Fair enough, but that still does not justify them being stuck on a ship for several months, because 1) there is no "due process" (search online for it's proper definition and not the perversed US instituonalist definition), 2) it's punishment without verdict, and 3) it's inhumane. Actually, it's an edge case the US judicial system is not capable of handling, because the US judiciary is lead by morons.

Again, you don't get to justify this kind of treatment of people "because they did bad". What's next, a return to witch burning because the milk soured? The average deck hand, who had no power or influence over the matter, should have weeks of their pay disappear, because they are lightly implicated, meaning their families will go without food? Nuts to that.

Why do yanks continuously defend, deflect and try to gloss over their own governments incompetence and unethical behaviour? The US needs dire judicial reform.

[-] livus@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

I think you might have replied to my comment by accident.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Am I allowed to blame the moral hazard caused by the corporate diffusion of responsibility?

[-] livus@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

Definitely. Global shipping is riddled with moral hazard and artificial externalities.

[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 15 points 6 months ago

Excuse me, wtf? You're not "discounting", but indirectly condemning the whole crew when obviously it was the navigator and captain responsible for the negligence? Not only that, but almost indirectly affirming that they all deserve to be there?

"Oh I'm sorry, but this is ancient Egypt and you must be buried with the pharaoh."

Prick. And no, don't come at me with "but those 6 people who died", because that justifies nothing.

[-] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

The ship had an engineering casualty which led to a loss of control. The navigator didn’t decide to drive into the bridge.

The captain is ultimately responsible, but the crew is not without fault.

[-] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Innocent until proven guilty

[-] IceHouse@lemmy.zip 21 points 6 months ago

This is absolutely nightmarish to be stuck at your job like this.

[-] FollyDolly@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

I didn't even think about that! If someone tried to keep me at work for months I'd be crawling through the ventilation system Bruce Willas Diehard style to escape.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago

Surely get paid

[-] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I shared this news with my mother, she had already known and understood the reasoning behind keeping the crew aboard. Shocking to be honest. Like, nobody can let them back on shore and give them a few hotel rooms? Let’s just have controlled explosions around foreign nationals because rules??

[-] senkora@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago

This also happened with the crew of the Ever Given for months, after it was dislodged from the Suez Canal: https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/06/09/ever-given-suez-crew-stuck-shipping/

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 6 months ago

The crew, made up of 20 Indians and a Sri Lankan national, has been unable to disembark because of visa restrictions, a lack of required shore passes and parallel ongoing investigations by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and FBI.

On Monday, the crew remained on board even as authorities used small explosive charges to deliberately "cut" an expanse of the bridge lying on the ship's bow.

Would they treat Europeans like this? This is only happening because they're brown.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

If the Europeans had visa restrictions they would.

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Like if they were Brits lol

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 6 months ago

I know it wouldn't be fun to actually experience but I've always thought it would be fun to be stranded somewhere on a boat

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