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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 51 points 5 months ago

Contenents are generally bigger than countries yes.

Here's an actual continent size comparison Contenent sizes

[-] Pirasp@lemmy.world 59 points 5 months ago

Except, that your picture shows the continents in the usual Mercator projection distorted way. This type of projection makes countries nearer to the poles look way larger than they actually are.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 25 points 5 months ago

Antarctica is definitely not Mercator there!

And finding a good projection for the entirety of Asia would be difficult.

Now, using Mercator Russia in the OP image with Africa.... But I've already complained about that in two other crossposts ;-)

[-] Pirasp@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I'll give you the point on Antarctica, but using multiple different projections is somehow even worse imho

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago

Any equal area projection recentered for each continent would work.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Recentered is the thing.

I've often wished map apps would recenter the Mercator projection for wherever you are in the world. So you could zoom out on e.g. Russia and see the world map as if the 'equator' were through Russia and the 'poles' at ... somewhere in the North Atlantic and South Indian Ocean?

Bonus points if you can rotate too

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I volunteer to implement the backend for this, if someone else will do the frontend. It should be easy enough to do a spherical rotation before whatever data gets passed to the projection math.

If you want an azimuthal equidistant projection centered somewhere, this website already exists, but that doesn't help us here.

[-] force@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

here's a replica i just made using the equal earth projection

and here's one using the authagraph projection

i wanted to make one using the mollweide projection, but i couldn't find a good blank map with borders to use

they're both poor work, but i don't want to put in the effort to fix them, and it's pretty funny imagining icelanders getting mad that i put them in north america

both used blank world map images ripped from wikipedia plus getpaint.net

[-] nave@lemmy.ca 30 points 5 months ago

Why does this image use the numbers for the entire US but only shows the continental US?

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago

Came to the comments section to say this too. The contiguous States should also look visually smaller than China next to them, so I think they've blown them up to represent the full 9.8m km^2^.

[-] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Because if they were consistent or honest, they'd have to admit that the US is actuslly smaller than China (or Canada, which they chose to exclude).

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[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 25 points 5 months ago

I'd really love to see what Africa would look like without randomly created colonial superstates. I know Atlas Pro did a video about that, but not sure how accurate that is.

Also what Europe if every people group with a unintelligible dialect had a nation. Like Catalan, Occitan, Romansh, Bavarian etc.. Where I live the people in the next village over officially speak the same language, but it's completely unintelligible. So not a different language for political reasons only really.

[-] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 5 points 5 months ago

Same for India, if the British never came what countries would exist in that region? All the states pretty much have different languages, cultures, food, politics, etc so it's more like an EU with a common military

[-] force@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Also what Europe if every people group with a unintelligible dialect had a nation.

Papua New Guinea/Indonesia and Africa have like a thousand to a two thousand languages each, I think it'd be funnier doing that with them

[-] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

In that case India would be a ton of tiny nations as well.

[-] shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol 11 points 5 months ago
[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago

It's fun to see how the shapes and areas change while moved around and being reprojected.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
  • "excluding Russia"

  • includes Russia

I'm confused.

Or was there a text saying something like "all can fit in together, except Russia?"

Update. Didn't see the asterisk near the word Europe, was confused.

[-] orangeboats@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

It is obviously talking about "the continent Europe, excluding Russia". What is there to be confused about?

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ahhh, I didn't notice the other asterisk near "Europe".

[-] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

Honestly I missed the asterisk too, but I assumed instead something was cut from the screenshot.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

The star is meant to point you at the compariosn to Europe which in this case does not include the european part of Russia.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 5 points 5 months ago

Ah, struggled to find the asterisk near Europe word.

Thank you!

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's basically to make it clear and avoid confusion which can arise, e.g. by including only the European part of russia, as the Europe-Asia border is not uniquely defined.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago

Thanks! Didn't see the asterisk there

[-] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I'm also interested in the true size comparison without the skewed size that occurs further and further from the equator when you make a flat, rectangular map from a sphere.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm not sure, but I assume they've used some equal-area projection for the representation, so its angles are skewed, not the size.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Or just scaled the country images to match land area?

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

On thetruesize.com they seem to use some equal-angle projection and the countries are reprojected while being moved. There, e.g. russia doesn't seem to be that narrow when placed on top of Africa.

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[-] maculata@aussie.zone 3 points 5 months ago

LOL. Africa would be a tiny crumb in AUSTRALIA!

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