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Wind and solar unbeatable for low cost new electricity::Onshore wind and solar photovoltaic technologies have maintained their position as the lowest cost form of new electricity generation, despite global supply

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[-] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

A near infinite source of free energy cheaper than pumping ever more scarce liquid from the ground? Who could have predicted this?

[-] ptsdstillinmymind@lemmy.studio 17 points 1 year ago

Oil and Gas companies should be paying for the damage caused by Climate change.

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

"Nuclear SMR current costs are not reported since there is no prospect of a plant being deployed in Australia before 2030"

Darn.

[-] WagnasT@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago

This is great, now we need more transmission and storage.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Except when it's dark and/or windstill. MWh and TWh scale storage is the opposite of inexpensive.

[-] WagnasT@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago

This is exactly what we need to focus on, driving down the costs of storage. Personally i'm a fan of molten salt storage placed at retired coal plant turbines, compressed CO2 seems like a solid bet as well. If flow batteries get their kinks worked out they can be quite cost competitive.

[-] A_A@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, and :
What are the real costs before subsidies ?
What are the real cost of climate damage we try to mitigate - - which is the basis for subsidies ?

[-] eleitl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] A_A@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most interesting indeed.
So the cost of energy is a complex topic and this guy has studied many aspects of that.

Amongst other things he wrote :
Morgan, Tim (2013). Life After Growth. Petersfield, UK: Harriman House. ISBN 9780857193391

He discusses the energy cost of energy or : Energy return on investment

He gives an estimate of $130 trillion usd for the global cost of energy transition with a link to the source ... I don't understand how this estimate is made though.

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