All the complaints about supposed violations of international law that the US has made in the past really ring hollow now that Johnson has said the quiet part out loud: international bodies are designed to control the "impoverished, barbaric" Global East and South, not the "enlightened" Global West.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 42 points 5 months ago

Pretty sure only USA thinks it's above international bodies.

[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 30 points 5 months ago

Well they did set a precedent when they walked into Iraq against the international bodies wishes.

All the big players learned that if the US won't play ball, they won't either.

[-] applepie@kbin.social 12 points 5 months ago

Israel played a role in that one too btw

With an ally like that, who needs enemies?

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[-] applepie@kbin.social 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"rules based international order" we shill relied on appearances of propriety, the more the US acts in this fashion the quicker the system is getting eroded.

Current "leadershIp" is willing to lose a lot face here for a foreign state, which is rather perplexing from national security and sovereignty perspective. What is the US winning here? And if we are not getting anything in return, then why are we supporting Israel's war crimes at our expense?

[-] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 23 points 5 months ago

Israel serves many purposes for the US.

Its our casus belli on a stick against Iran.

Its our nuke in a black box against Russia and China

Its our staging ground for when this whole climate change dealio gets sorted out and we need somewhere new to drill.

It's a bunch of white enough people we can defend against any new terror organization that miraculously appears where we wanted to invade.

Its our theocratic imperative to kick off Armageddon.

It's a place we can subtly suggest all our domestic Jews move to.

It funds the most regressive and hawkish politicians in our government.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 24 points 5 months ago

It's our laboratory for new mass surveillance and border control technology.

It's our training ground for LEOs, FBI, ICE, ect. who literally go to Israel to learn urban warfare tactics.

It's our unsinkable aircraft carrier in the most oil rich region in the world.

It's our shield of plausible deniability when we want to act against our enemies without drawing backlash at home or abroad.

Israel really is the gift that keeps on giving!

[-] qprimed@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

pretty comprehensive answer. definitely a strong nominee for the go-to comment every time this question pops up.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

Not pretty sure, definitely. See: The Invasion of The Hague act

[-] JackDark@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

And Israel, and any other country whose rulers decide that they disagree with the rest.

[-] intelshill@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

Everyone thinks they're above international bodies, but most don't pretend that they don't think so.

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 37 points 5 months ago

I mean, other than Exxon, Shell or BP.

And the Knesset.

And Putin.

But other than that!

[-] bazus1@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 months ago

That's why international relations and treaties are hard, since anyone can just decide they don't want to honor them any more. You need to make it enticing for all parties to stay committed somehow.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Maybe with T.G.I Friday's coupons?

[-] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 months ago

Somebody get the UN on the phone, they’re going to want to hear this.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

When did Israel become "our sovereignty"? 🤔

[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 14 points 5 months ago

Really? You did bury other countries sovereignty many times.

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

Pissing off the International Community is how we Strengthen Our Defenses AGAINST Terror Attacks!

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Johnson, the guy who puts a specific rightwing Christianity over America’s sovereignty?

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Sovereignty has been one of the biggest bullshit propaganda tells in recent times. 99% of the time, anyone who uses it is bullshitting you and probably doesn't know what it even means.