I was going to put that in the list but felt it was long enough already, but it does fill the fruit dumpling gap.
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I was going to sarcastically ask "ever ever?" but suspect your statement might just be literally true...
Wrong time again...
Also Brown definitely wouldn't have been the first to enforce faux tradition.
That shit has existed forever and the more meaningless, the more militant.
Ketchup on hotdogs. Folded pizza. Seafood with red wine.
All said with more authority yet far less evidence than anything Alton Brown ever said.
Fruit goes on cooked flour.
It's been like that for centuries.
Cake. Danish. Fruitcake. Pizza. Filled doughnuts. Kolacky. Raisin bread. Banana bread...
Post hoc ergo propter hoc means "after this therefore because of this". The name of the fallacy is the claim the arguer is making, that because one event happened soon after another event, it was caused by the earlier event. A common example is that deciduous trees lose their leaves after it gets cold, so they lose their leaves because it gets cold. The actual reason is complex and has little to do with temperature. It's partly that day lengths get shorter and the leaves no longer can absorb enough energy to match their costs.
It is similar to correlation doesn't equal causation, but is more specific that it has to do with two events that happen at similar times, which is specifically called out in the tweet.
That the argument is heuristic and not logical is that logic has a pretty limited use - where you can reasonably agree on premises to make a specific type of argument that relies on how that argument is constructed. Heuristics rely on probability, what's the most likely outcome given a set of preceding causes, or what are the most likely causes given a following event. For example most problems in my line of work are from loose connections, so it's the first thing I look for when something is going wrong. You can't say "because I see this event it is logically this cause" but you can say "When I've seen this event before 80% of the time it was cause A, 15% of the time it was cause B, and 5% of the time it was cause C. So I'll check them in order of likelihood"
So the tweet isn't making a logical claim. They're saying it's unlikely that Trump talked to Putin about informants, requested the list of informants, had a list of informants in an unsecured place, but somehow wasn't related to those informants being compromised.
EDIT: Also Wikipedia has a better explanation of pheph: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc
You mean post hoc ergo propter hoc.
And the argument here isn't logical, it's heuristic.
For you, orange is red!
And abortion being legal doesn't mean shit for a Catholic.
No one's up in arms because non-Catholics eat meat during lent or don't believe in transubstantiation.
Their religious belief has no place in government. If they don't want to do it, then don't.
The concept of the tragedy of the commons existed centuries before Hardin. He just uses that concept to justify an unsound conclusion and the concept would exist whether he wrote his paper or not.
Every time someone references it, they're referencing that concept that really does affect communal resources, and probably have no idea what argument Hardin ever made based on it.
The beginning of the paper lays out the idea very well and I use it to teach people to treat shared resources respectfully, but tell them not to bother reading the conclusion.
Found the ancient Mesopotamian...
This is a good example of keeping your mind so open your brain falls out.
No. The article doesn't explicitly say what party he planned to vote for. That's right.
Almost all instances of election violence have been committed by the same party - even the attempted assassinations. I'm sure there could be examples of violence from the other party but I'm genuinely struggling to think of any.
So if a reasonable person hears someone in an election line was violent they're not going to think "well there are crazies on both sides, so yaneverknow."