[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 3 points 5 days ago

That was way back in 2007. Probably close to when I read his stuff... but even then he was clearly still clinging to the Halloween Letters and seemed extremely old school.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 3 points 5 days ago

Emphasis on used to. He worked fairly hard at becoming a household name, but ultimately his fame was pretty brief. Stallman achieved meme status, love him or hate him. Torvalds actually ships shit people use. There's just no discourse around Raymond these days, good or bad.

Every once in a while someone trips over one of the pitons he's driven into the wall of FOSS to try and climb it, discovers his abysmal takes, amd everyone promptly forgets about him again.

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I haven't read the whole thread yet, but so far the choice line is:

I like how you just dropped the “Vance is interested in right authoritarianism” like it’s a known fact to base your entire point on. Vance is the clearest demonstration of a libertarian the republicans have in high office. It’s an absurd ad hominem that you try to mask in your wall of text.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 22 points 4 weeks ago

The writing has been on the wall since they reprinted Alpha as non playable $250 packs.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 19 points 4 months ago

fabricating ties between LessWrong and neoreaction

Lmao

I knew the yarvin afterparty fact would come in handy later

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

His initial premise is so damned stupid that there's probably nothing to salvage so I'm not reading it. He gives zero credence to the idea that whatever metric he grabbed for men should be a linear correlation to IQ might... not be? Then ploughs on with an explanation that allows him to do Trans discourse. Fuck off with that.

Here's an alternate theory: you only know about out trans folks. Trans folks will only come out if they think they're likely to not be beaten to death. Therefore you will see more trans folks at IT jobs and fewer at construction sites, because IT workers sit in chairs all day and many couldn't beat someone to death even if they tried. Plus having lots of money helps insulate you from the risk of ending up living on the fucking street. Seriously if this guy just thought about it for like ten seconds he'd realize his data was skewed.

Also, anyone who's ever experienced being a teenage boy probably understands exactly how dumb Testosterone makes you firsthand, complete with specific stories.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

after party at Curtis Yarvin's house

One sentence horror story.

In fact, didn't they make this movie, "Get Out" right?

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 30 points 5 months ago

Why Do I Hate Pronouns More Than Genocide?

I had to google this but it's real.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Fails to list SlateScott as a controversial guest.

Also, did he just use a bang path to refer to a racist dude's Twitter persona? Seeing old school lore adopted by these mutants gives me heartburn.

Oh, and that bit at the end disclaiming it as an EA event despite it clearly being an EA event is classic "decoupler" (or, if you like, responsibility avoider.)

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The actually not even really a hatchet job NYT piece on SlateScott that mostly just called him a weird little guy has nonetheless created a festering psychic wound that oozes to this day. Here manifests as an interview with the author on LW. See also: discussion on reddit.

My favorite section, talking about how people are mad that be brought up Scott's notorious race stuff™️:

CM: That's great. That's a valid position. There are other valid positions where people say, we need to not go so close to that, because it's dangerous and there's a slippery slope. The irony of this whole situation is that some people who feel that I should not have gone there, who think I should not explore the length and breadth of that situation, are the people who think you should always go there.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 83 points 9 months ago

Techbro was originally used to describe the type of men who made it difficult for women in tech, then somewhere along the line the general public realized the same dudes were also making it difficult for lots if people in lots of places.

If tech folks never actually acted like frat bros, the bro appellation never would have happened. I've worked in offices with Kegs cor crissakes.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 18 points 9 months ago

Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphising Larry Ellison.

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Hounding the president of Harvard out of a job because you think she's a DEI hire is one thing, but going after a Billionaire's wife? How dare these journalists! What big bullies.

Bonus downplaying of EA's faults. He of course phrases the Bostrom affair as someone being "accused" of sending a racist email, as if there were any question as to who sent it, or if it was racist. And acts like it's not just the cherry on top of a lifetime of Bostrom's work.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 18 points 11 months ago

I wish you were joking but they literally say this in the post:

At that hourly rate, he spent perhaps ~$130,000 of Lightcone donors’ money on [investigating us]. But it’s more than that. When you factor in our time, plus hundreds/thousands of comments across all the posts, it’s plausible Ben’s negligence cost EA millions of dollars of lost productivity. If his accusations were true, that could have potentially been a worthwhile use of time - it's just that they aren't, and so that productivity is actually destroyed. [...]

Even if it was just $1 million, that wipes out the yearly contribution of 200 hardworking earn-to-givers who sacrificed, scrimped and saved to donate $5,000 this year.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also this:

Have you ever made a social gaff? Does the idea of somebody exclusively looking for and publishing negative things about you make you feel uneasy? Terrified?

(spooky hands)

I actually played this game with some of my friends to see how easy it was. I tried to say only true things but in a way that made them look like villains. It was terrifyingly easy. Even for one of my oldest friends, who is one of the more universally-liked EAs, I could make him sound like a terrifying creep.

📸 🤨

I could do this for any EA org. I know of so many conflicts in EA that if somebody pulled a Ben Pace on, it would explode in a similar fashion.

🤔

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Utilitarian brainworms or one of the many very real instances of a homicidal parent going after their disabled child? I can't decide, but it's a depressing read.

May end up on SRD, but you read it here first.

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Someone posted this on ssc with a warning about talking to cops, but really just marvel at what's going on here.

Aaronson manages to turn a story where he is briefly arrested for a theft (which he did commit on video!) into paragraphs and paragraphs of indulging in his persecution fantasies.

Zero empathy on display for the people he stole from, the people just doing their jobs, or reflection on the fact that it wasn't a simple little mistake anyone could make but rather... a fairly weird move? Do people usually put change in cups?

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