Thanks, I've been trying to get a Tumbleweed installation running today but a few critical cross platform programs made for Ubuntu/Fedora won't run. I don't like the ad/telemetry direction Canonical has taken Ubuntu into, I may try Debian.

Oh that makes sense, thanks.

[-] FutureProofBackdoors@futurology.today 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'd say about half of what I do is command-line (VMs, host OS being Windows). I am liking tumbleweed but I need to actually install it to see how it plays with my graphics card.

Since they're new to me, how easy can/how often are malicious flatpaks introduced to the ecosystem and are they vetted somehow? It's my understanding (at least for docker) that they aren't virtualized so they share kernel functionality meaning any image is just a priv esc away from moving outside the container.

Thank you, I'll read up on this more. My main concern is long-term usability (I ended up switching back to windows because an update would completely break the system and no amount of searching could fix it in an afternoon). This would happen every 6 months at least. So that sounds nice.

[-] FutureProofBackdoors@futurology.today 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thanks for the reply. Why no Debian stable with KDE.. which part doesn't play nicely with nvidia (Debian or KDE?)

I already use VPNs/for for 99% of my daily browsing/activities on my personal PCs, is there a higher chance of account lockout with VPNs on linux besides a few services like Netflix?

[-] FutureProofBackdoors@futurology.today 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately it seems things haven't changed much in the last decade as far as hardening is concerned, seems like you have to come from an infosec background and constantly read log files or set up new yara rules (or have some software do it which comes with its own set of concerns). I was recently under the impression that docker images were virtualized until I learned they're free to break out at any time with kernel vulnerabilities which are much more numerous than hypervisor escapes, so it doesn't surprise me there are issues with flatpaks/bubblewrap/firejail. Sandboxing solutions seem much more mature on Windows unfortunately, with both Sandboxie/Windows Sandbox and Kaspersky (I know) having their own versions of scope-specific apps and limits. But I think I have a lot more reading to do before assuming.

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cross-posted from: https://futurology.today/post/1308742

Hey guys, first post here and on an alt, I hope I don't get flamed. If there's not enough info I'll post another thread tomorrow.

Its been ~5-7 years since using Linux (Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Debian/Mint/Fedora/etc) as my daily driver. Windows since then for dev and games with kids,, but now I have a laptop that can run my dev env in a VM.

I'm an advocate for privacy and security, but I'm also at the "config once, mostly work for a while" camp... I don't like spending a ton of time fixing things. I don't need Whonix or QubesOS-level compartmentalization (unless it runs Barbone's now), but I tried OpenSuse Tumbleweed on a recommendation and the fine-tuning of flatpak controls seemed really nice. I'd love to be able to sandbox as much as possible without breaking things. Memory and exploit-hardened kernel/apps is a huge plus. Basically GrapheneOS as a Linux distro would be fantastic, even though it comes with its own issues.

Am I overthinking here? Should I commit to Debian, Fedora, or OpenSuse and learn to sandbox and harden properly (if so which has best docs and community)?

I forgot the copy-paste specs my laptop hardware info to my phone earlier, but its an HP Victus 15-fa0032dx

HP Victus 15.6" 144Hz FHD IPS Gaming Laptop (Intel i7-12650H 10-Core, 16GB DDR4, 512GB SSD, RTX 3050 Ti 4GB GDDR6), Backlit KYB, WiFi 6, BT 5.2, HD Webcam

I don't use the Bluetooth or webcam, so those drivers aren't necessary. Does Wayland work for this, and is that really necessary?

Sorry for the noob questions. Mid-30s guy with kids wanting to get this done this week if possible. Please excuse spelling and grammar mistakes.

SIDE NOTE: NOT AT ALL opposed to learning new systems, especially for security, as long as it doesn't require hunting down obscure undocumented commands.

Thanks all

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Hey guys, first post here and on an alt, I hope I don't get flamed. If there's not enough info I'll post another thread tomorrow.

Its been ~5-7 years since using Linux (Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Debian/Mint/Fedora/etc) as my daily driver. Windows since then for dev and games with kids,, but now I have a laptop that can run my dev env in a VM.

I'm an advocate for privacy and security, but I'm also at the "config once, mostly work for a while" camp... I don't like spending a ton of time fixing things. I don't need Whonix or QubesOS-level compartmentalization (unless it runs Barbone's now), but I tried OpenSuse Tumbleweed on a recommendation and the fine-tuning of flatpak controls seemed really nice. I'd love to be able to sandbox as much as possible without breaking things. Memory and exploit-hardened kernel/apps is a huge plus. Basically GrapheneOS as a Linux distro would be fantastic, even though it comes with its own issues.

Am I overthinking here? Should I commit to Debian, Fedora, or OpenSuse and learn to sandbox and harden properly (if so which has best docs and community)?

I forgot the copy-paste specs my laptop hardware info to my phone earlier, but its an HP Victus 15-fa0032dx

HP Victus 15.6" 144Hz FHD IPS Gaming Laptop (Intel i7-12650H 10-Core, 16GB DDR4, 512GB SSD, RTX 3050 Ti 4GB GDDR6), Backlit KYB, WiFi 6, BT 5.2, HD Webcam

I don't use the Bluetooth or webcam, so those drivers aren't necessary. Does Wayland work for this, and is that really necessary?

Sorry for the noob questions. Mid-30s guy with kids wanting to get this done this week if possible. Please excuse spelling and grammar mistakes.

SIDE NOTE: NOT AT ALL opposed to learning new systems, especially for security, as long as it doesn't require hunting down obscure undocumented commands.

Thanks all

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