[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

They are being incredibly charitable with the width of that column

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Now go per capita and check out other countries

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Some people literally already say this, and they say "WWII was Stalin's war" and so on.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Find me one neoliberal who isn't promoting violence.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Remember when Mao cast Firagaga on China and incinerated the entire population?

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

I think the matter at hand is antizionism, not antisemitism

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Thankfully I haven't seen the takes accusing HB of the recent attacks, though being accused of the attacks on .world was a little annoying. I appreciate the solidarity.

I genuinely have no idea where this recent attack is coming from. The most fried part of my brain says "One of the big companies trying to absorb the fediverse is doing this to undermine their competition," but I have zero evidence, it's just the only motive I can even think of beyond it being a rogue crank.

It's totally conceivable that HB people would spam an instance they don't like -- though this would be against the wishes of the mods and admins -- but our site culture is completely antithetical to spamming CSAM and things like that, so I don't think even a rogue group of users would do it "on our behalf".

Oh, I just realized it could be one of those fash instances like exploding heads. If any were defeded relatively recently, that would make sense.

Instead people are jumping to "OhH it's ThE HexBeArS" when they have not been able to freely browse you guys' discussions or even talk with you, they're just shown the worst take from a minority (although tbf you guys do the same on c/cth, so it's kinda funny seeing both sides with one not realising the other is also just a human too, just with differing culture and political stance)

I don't think I have much to contribute to the "both sides" thing that is useful, but I'm going to talk anyway because I'm thinking about it now.

off-topicI think if you asked a hexbear user to seriously answer how representative those screenshots are of lemm.ee, they'd probably say that lemm.ee is much more ideologically disjointed on a handful of issues, especially regarding history and geopolitics, and the screenshots are only representative of some of the more annoying tendencies among the neoliberals and poorly-educated "anarchists" (like that dude who decried "tankies" and used Sankara as a counterexample, when we all like Sankara). I also think they would be correct in saying this. I don't know what the anti-HB people who don't comment on our instance think, I hardly ever see it, but I can at least tell you that we know much more about neoliberal ideology than they do ML, because we almost all started out as de facto neoliberals and nearly none of them have even a basic understanding of ML theory (which is not really their fault, to be clear).

Anyone on any instance federated with hexbear is welcome to post questions to c/askchapo. If they are relatively polite and not presumptuous, we'll be happy to answer. If people are still mean, report it. You can let me know and I will personally nag the mods to address the matter properly. Just recently we had a thread from a .ml user who wanted us to state our opinion on Trump for the record for the hundredth time, so about a hundred users chimed in that they all hate his guts (I also made a comment to that effect). We're happy to discuss things openly and it would be good for us to improve community relations to avoid things like one group accusing the other of doing something as heinous as what the OP describes.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

I said nothing about any one's race

Earlier in the same comment:

Sorry your government (most likely Russia or China)

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Do you just assume no human can disagree with you?

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

I think the lemmee user was making a joke about how such a kidnapper could be called "fuckass" or some other derisive name.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

It's a communist instance with very few other instances federated, what the fuck do you expect? The CPC doesn't give a shit about either of us, you aren't involved in some YA dystopia story by posting.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Ignorance, once again, being the idea that ML orthodoxy is the only "true socialism."

That is not the hexbear line and not even relevant to the thread. Being an anarchist or whatever you like doesn't mean believing western smears of China -- like this incredibly poor article that you keep talking around.

We've been over this already and I'm not sure there's much point in carrying on this conversation if you are going to intentionally misrepresent politics I have articulated to you a number of times.

I remember now from that conversation a week ago that you insist on being some type of socialist but I am pretty sure you never specified.

And to be honest, it sounds like you are the one doing a lot of speaking for the Chinese

It's not an unfounded opinion that the CPC has strong popular support. That doesn't mean the majority of China is ML in any serious way -- plainly, they don't seem to be -- but it does support the view that articles like this are a completely bullshit characterization of the PRC - RoC situation and most people in China (and many other countries in the imperial periphery) would agree.

while making a lot of assumptions about my relationship with Chinese society. I don't really feel the need to justify any of this to you or trade cultural credentials.

Reading another comment you made in this thread: Whoops, I guess you probably have met a Marxist or two. That wasn't terribly important to my argument, I was merely speculating on how you might have developed you false opinions. Given this new information, I don't have a new guess.

I don't care about your life and wasn't attempting to initiate some identity game, I merely try to understand things in terms of how ideology is downstream from personal circumstances, and how an ideology that is well-suited to one's personal circumstances can nonetheless lead them to have a distorted view of the world outside their experience. I support your inclination to not discuss these details with me but invite you to reflect on them to yourself in this context.

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