[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

It just makes you sound like a dweeb because "disinformation" is the dem-aligned version of "fake news". I don't have the slightest interest interest in your life story.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

What you're describing is a low consciousness of politics, whether due to desperation, poor education, or whatever else, since those moment-to-moment experiences generally could productively be described as political.

My argument, and you might actually sympathize with it, is that the only fundamental difference here is the media screaming at people about this nonstop. Seriously, lineral people who like to fancy themselves as "staying up to date" with political goings-on are basically in an abusive relationship with the media that complete contorts their ideas of the past and future to promote the "this is the most important election of our livetimes" bullshit that they've done three elections in a row now. It's not what the politicians are doing, it's this screaming from the media that is frankly wrecking the mental health of the people who listen to it regularly.

I actually do remember what it was like before then and a few months into it starting, whatever you might say of my decision making, I just disconnected for two years because I already hate Trump and don't need a thousand headlines a day that ORANGMANBADORANGMANBADORANGMANBAD. It ended up being a good opportunity to learn about politics from a historical perspective and get some distance from this shit (and ultimately, that was a major factor in my becoming a communist, but we aren't here for that).

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Perhaps you're conflating "the electoral dog and pony show" for "politics" then, because if you were "deeply poor," it's hard to imagine not dealing with politics. Easy example, the cops are a pretty political institution, acting as the agents of establishment powers. Hell, the enclosure of the commons and the resultant practically monopolistic effect that landlording has is also pretty political, liberals just don't talk about it (other than Adam Smith).

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

That's a silly argument. Biden (aside from being an unrepentant segregationist!) acted as an active agent of white supremacy, and Kamala would have too, just like every President has.

As an aside, it wasn't the majority of the population. It wasn't even the majority of the voting-eligible population. It was like a little over a quarter, I think.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Conversely, other social media have been also known to suppress the right and protect the left

Where the hell are these socialist social media sites supposed to be? Are you going to say that it's Lemmy, like that's a comparable example?

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Rights are not handed to us by God or by Nature, they are legal constructs, created by people. They are not immaculate or immune to criticism or alteration on the basis of what we think would be better for human society. White supremacy must be smashed to its very core, and part of accomplishing that task is making sure it's as difficult for white supremacists to recruit and congregate as we can possibly make it.

It's bizarre idealism to think that opposition to white supremacy will be overcome with no loss of enthusiasm or membership, that any interference actually has zero effect and we're just better off letting them do what they want.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

It was still a white supremacist country under Biden and all previous Presidents and it would have been so under Kamala. This isn't something that gets changed by elections.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

I made no value judgements about insulting people (you don't really need to specify "in online debate"), I was amused by the fact that you called it "disinformation" when it was just an insult and pointing out how silly it was.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Politics has been an ever-present and disturbing part of our lives since 2016.

Politics was ever-present before that, it's ever present in human society, it's just that some privileged middle class people choose to ignore it and largely succeed when their NPR ASMR isn't blasting them with "ORANG MAN BAD" every hour of the day to brow beat them into caring.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Compared to last election, several million were people who recently voted Democrat, yes.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

You are not intelligent or informed.

Going passed the disinformation in your first line.

lmao "It's disinformation when someone calls me unintelligent and uninformed". What happened, did you get tired of people telling you "that's not what ad hominem means" and reach for the next rhetorical pejorative that crossed your mind?

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Bernie is a bastard, but I think it's backwards thinking to blame voters rather than candidates. In a nominal democracy, it's the job of the candidates to appeal to people to get votes. If there is any merit to this idea, we must conclude that the failure was the Harris campaign for not generating the confidence needed to vote for her -- which is a very expected outcome when you're running as reactionary a campaign as she did, calling the wall a "good idea" and so on.

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